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is there a geometry reason mil dragon cant be face rigged?

MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
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is there a geometry criteria for older figures to be candidates for face rigging?

does iray do caustics?

is there any way to do uv swapping on poser content?  for example, new uvs for the mildragon?

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,590
    edited February 2021

    it is up to DAZ

    Pretty sure it could be but only they can legally do it for redistribution

    Maya can do UV transfer but again same issue, DAZ mesh

    I might try Zprojecting it to Dragon 3 for my own use though cheeky

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    poser used to be able to link geometry swapping to a parameter dial.  iirc one of the old bar italia / pizzeria sets had it.

    does ds support geometry swapping?  

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited February 2021

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    it is up to DAZ

    Pretty sure it could be but only they can legally do it for redistribution

    Maya can do UV transfer but again same issue, DAZ mesh

    I might try Zprojecting it to Dragon 3 for my own use though cheeky

    if only dragon3 was face rigged.

    mildragon is still my go-to dragon. 

    subdragon is kewl, but some poses makes his wings polys intersect. a weightmap might help with that.

    Post edited by Mistara on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,759

    Face rigs are potentially problematic with legacy figures as that rigging system has strict rules about grouping - a bone can affect only its own group and that of its parent, and a mesh group may touch only the parent and child bones' groups; that wouldn't support the kind of hierarchical face rig we see in more recent Daz figures.

    DS does do Geometry swapping, I think, though it's had issues in DS 4 because of the chnage in the way geometry is handled and I'm not certain it's currently working.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,590
    edited February 2021

    yeah would need to be in duf format and likely general weight too as triax for so many bones difficult

    all meshes could be rerigged but I don't think they would bother, a new one would sell better

    we have come a full circle, back in the day I was an iClone user first and their figures are all face rigged

    when I suggested it on this forum in the pre genesis 3 days I was informed of my stupidity by so many cheeky

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    trying to imagine dragon in the A pose  lol

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,590

    Mystiarra said:

    trying to imagine dragon in the A pose  lol

    https://www.daz3d.com/millennium-dragon-folk 

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Mystiarra said:

    trying to imagine dragon in the A pose  lol

    https://www.daz3d.com/millennium-dragon-folk 

    I absolutely adore those dragon folks.  luvv their lil outfit 

     

    they could really use some brow bones.  and lip corver  lol

  • KnightKnight Posts: 33

    I've found the subdragon also quite posable.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    there's nothing special about the eye geometry for face rigging?

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    If you just need a subtile expression like raised eye brows , lip curl or  puckered kissy face etc.  you might try doing what you need with a deformer or mesh grabber. it might not be spectacular but it might get you what you need. you can keyframe deformers easily on the daz timeline you can use deformer in the puppeteer tool as well 

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