G8F T-Pose?

Starkdog

I'm working on translating some of my modeling work between Genesis 3F and Genesis 8F, and I'm looking for a base "T-Pose" for Genesis 8F.  I saw a utility freebie for adjusting G8F to use G3F poses, but that's not quite what I'm looking for.  I did manage to discover that if I set G8F thighs side-side to -6.00, they match up with G3F's T-Pose.  I'm really stumped on what collar/shoulder adjustments I need to get G8F to mirror G3F's base T-Pose.  Does anyone have any settings or suggestions?

Thanks, -David

richardandtracy

May I make a suggestion?

If you have RiverSoftArt's G3F-G8F morph transfer script, then take a character and transfer it to G8F. Then put the G3F version into the zero T pose. Having done that, take the G8F version, put it into the zero pose. Then slowly but surely work through the body parts working outwards from the hip posing them until there is no difference to be seen between the versions. The resulting pose bone rotations is then the offset value you must add to a G3 pose to make G8F work with it. There are the two obvious differences, Thigh Side-Side at 6 degrees and Shoulder Bend at 45 degrees, but there may be a couple of others with small values.

I have to confess a quick & dirty pose transfer between the two generations just covers those and seems to work pretty well.

Think I'm going to try it myself this afternoon/evening and make a script to do it if it's more than just those obvious values.

If you don't have the RiverSoftArt morph transfer, the base G3/G8 figures would work, but I'm not sure that they are designed to be exactly the same shape, so the point at which the figures are perfectly aligned might be more difficult to identify.

Regards,

Richard.

 

Hylas

According to Skickleyield:

If converting from Genesis 3 to Genesis 8, pose Genesis 3's arms at 45 degrees down and legs at 6 degrees out,

Source: https://www.deviantart.com/sickleyield/journal/Tutorial-Transferring-Character-Morphs-G1G2G3G8-409437916

richardandtracy

I have tried, particularly those numbers, and they didn't work quite as well as the numbers I give below. The numbers above are the generally accepted and seem to work well. I have used them myself.

My method of getting the numbers was to load Victoria 7 in the zero pose. Then I loaded a version of G8F with the V7 morph applied to G8F via RiverSoftArt's G3F to G8F morph transfer. I left the right side alone, showing the zero pose for each and the left side I tried to match as well as possible. It is possible all I have found is the figures used in RSA's pose transfer script, but it's as good as I can get.

The images attached show the front and back views. G3F is in cream, G8F in green.

Left Thigh Bend: Side-Side = -6
Left Collar: Bend = 2.50
Left Shoulder Bend: Bend = 43.50
Left Forearm Bend: Bend = 0.20
Mirror these for the right side.

The differences in pose and final finger positions from the SY quoted numbers are small, but I think this set of numbers is very slightly closer. You may disagree, but if you do, it would be helpful for your argument if you could show the evidence supporting why you disagree. Force of personality, personal charm, being or quoting an authority, unfortunately doesn't affect numbers - which is just as well for me sometimes, lacking charm, forceful personality and any pretention to being an authority on anything.

Regards,

Richard.