Has Daz forgotten about Irish Heritage?

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  • Wicked WhompWicked Whomp Posts: 220
    edited March 2021

    Sevrin said:

    Wicked Whomp said:

    But we have seen Thanksgiving, Halloween, Christmas, Valentines, Men's Health Awareness Month, International Womens Day, Black History Month, Pride Month and ect., so why not celebrate the ONE holiday dedicated to Irish heritage here in the US?
     

    What do all those other holidays have in common? They're not about national origin.

    Neither is Irish heritage. It's about the Irish people, the language, the culture, and recognizing the contributions to the world made by the Irish people.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,589

    well since they are in Utah, I am not sure those are the Saints they are looking for ..

    maybe Latter Day ones wink

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,589

    if you want blending of cultures across the pond there is always this catchy tune with a dance cheeky

     

  • BandoriFanBandoriFan Posts: 364

    nemesis10 said:

    As a Black man with 40% of my heritage being Welsh and English, I am still waiting for my St. James and St. David day 3d content.... One can scrounge around for dragons, daffodills, etc... but really people!

    I like dragons they are good luck and the store has cute little ones too 

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,225

    Wendy LMAO

    Cleopatra instead of Maureen O'Hara.  That really is the issue here.  

    So why didn't Daz have a bundle for the Cleopatra that we all know and love?

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited March 2021

    Dae O'Mead said:

    Daz is in the US.  The US did not invent other those other Saints' days.  devil

    And if celebrating St Patrick's, why not St George, St David & St Andrew too so as not to discriminate over parts of these soggy isles?

    The US  actually didn't invent St Patrick's day either. 

     

    St. Patrick’s Day is celebrated annually on March 17, the anniversary of his death in the fifth century. The Irish have observed this day as a religious holiday for over 1,000 years. On St. Patrick’s Day, which falls during the Christian season of Lent, Irish families would traditionally attend church in the morning and celebrate in the afternoon. Lenten prohibitions against the consumption of meat were waived and people would dance, drink and feast–on the traditional meal of Irish bacon and cabbage.


    I quote from an article in the Encyclopedia Brittanica. (not wikipedia you note)

    It was emigrants, particularly to the United States, who transformed St. Patrick’s Day into a largely secular holiday of revelry and celebration of things Irish. Cities with large numbers of Irish immigrants, who often wielded political power, staged the most extensive celebrations, which included elaborate parades. Boston held its first St. Patrick’s Day parade in 1737, followed by New York City in 1762. Since 1962 Chicago has coloured its river green to mark the holiday. (Although blue was the colour traditionally associated with St. Patrick, green is now commonly connected with the day.) Irish and non-Irish alike commonly participate in the “wearing of the green”—sporting an item of green clothing or a shamrock, the Irish national plant, in the lapel. Corned beef and cabbage are associated with the holiday, and even beer is sometimes dyed green to celebrate the day. Although some of these practices eventually were adopted by the Irish themselves, they did so largely for the benefit of tourists.

    Note the word transformed.  

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,225
    edited March 2021

    Invented?

    This video is an official government source!  Note use of the word invented.

    Are you suggesting that a government was not entirely truthful?  Perhaps even misleading?  Particularly the US government?

    I am shocked, shocked, that there is propaganda going on here.  Where is my winnings?

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    No   comment.  (Made in the USofA)

    BTW  the Irish do have a very quirky sense of humour  

    And the only place I have ever watched a St Patrick's day parade was in Dublin.  County Dublin,  not Dublin's fair city.   My grandaughter was thrilled because some of the leprechauns were throwing out gold coins  from a big pot of gold.   Gold foil covered chocolate coins.

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,977
    My mother has red hair and freckles and shes black
  • RorrKonnRorrKonn Posts: 509

    RorrKonn said:

    I have all kinds of kin from all kinds of races. If every one would just go out to the woods .set around the moonshine still and have a mason jar to drink. World peace for sure.

    +1

    well, except for some not-peace on Thunder Road.  https://youtu.be/sPZquUwEG-A

    . . Hillybillys national anthems ;)
  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,225
    edited March 2021

    ALLIEKATBLUE said:

    My mother has red hair and freckles and shes black

    Really cool.  She must be beautiful.  The genes required for red hair are more common than appearance in the population.  Even in regions where red hair appears 'common,' redheads make up less than 1 out of 10 or 15 of the population.  

     

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,225
    edited March 2021

    RorrKonn, here is a web gem.

     

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,225
    edited March 2021

    Speaking of Parades

    Spring is imminent in the northern hemisphere.  Can we get a cherry-blossom festival or tulips or similar themed bundle for spring?  

    Here is a list of some prominent cherry blossom festivals

    https://www.budgettravel.com/article/our-10-favorite-cherry-blossom-festivals_7046

    EDIT: to add a list of tulip festivals

    https://www.1800flowers.com/blog/floral-events-news/best-tulip-festivals-in-the-world/

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  • RorrKonnRorrKonn Posts: 509
    Ya there's very few plants .flowers etc etc for sell around here. And there so easy to make.
  • RorrKonnRorrKonn Posts: 509

    RorrKonn, here is a web gem.

     

    Us hillbillies know how to rock n roll :)
  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    edited March 2021

    richardandtracy said:

    Didn't the Pilgrim Fathers come from England? 

    If memory serves (it's been a long, LONG time since grade school), the people on the Mayflower were primarily English and Dutch, or at least English living in the Netherlands

    :)

    Laurie 

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  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310
    edited March 2021

    AllenArt said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Didn't the Pilgrim Fathers come from England? 

    If memory serves (it's been a long, LONG time since grade school), the people on the Mayflower were primarily English and Dutch, or at least English living in the Netherlands

    :)

    Laurie 

    The pilgrims were mostly Puritans, i.e., Protestants.  They didn't have much truck with saints and their holidays.. 

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  • AnotherUserNameAnotherUserName Posts: 2,727
    edited March 2021

    My wife pinched me because I forgot to wear green on St. Patricks Day. I pinched my wife back becasue shes Irish.wink

    Id love to see some Irish mythology in the store.

    We were supposed to go back to Ireland in November, but covid put a halt to those plans. We absolutely loved Ireland from the moment we set foot in it the first time. The driving freaked me out though. I was able to cope just fine being on the opposite side of the road that im used to, it was seeing all the road signs in Gaelic that made me get all twitchy. We only kept the car for one night. I didnt want to add driving stress to our vacation.laugh

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  • RorrKonnRorrKonn Posts: 509
    Does GPS work in Ireland ?
  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    RorrKonn said:

    Does GPS work in Ireland ?

    Yeah, but it's all rainbows, pink hearts, green clovers and blue moons.  Takes getting used to.

  • SempieSempie Posts: 658

    Sevrin said:

    AllenArt said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Didn't the Pilgrim Fathers come from England? 

    If memory serves (it's been a long, LONG time since grade school), the people on the Mayflower were primarily English and Dutch, or at least English living in the Netherlands

    :)

    Laurie 

    The pilgrims were mostly Puritans, i.e., Protestants.  They didn't have much truck with saints and their holidays.. 

    Indeed. The Pilgrims fled from Oliver Cromwell, settled down in the Netherlands for a while, that offered them shelter, then set sail for America. They were definitely not Irish.

     

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    Sempie said:

    Sevrin said:

    AllenArt said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Didn't the Pilgrim Fathers come from England? 

    If memory serves (it's been a long, LONG time since grade school), the people on the Mayflower were primarily English and Dutch, or at least English living in the Netherlands

    :)

    Laurie 

    The pilgrims were mostly Puritans, i.e., Protestants.  They didn't have much truck with saints and their holidays.. 

    Indeed. The Pilgrims fled from Oliver Cromwell, settled down in the Netherlands for a while, that offered them shelter, then set sail for America. They were definitely not Irish.

     

    However, when the Great Potato Famine hit Ireland in the mid 19th century, A WHOLE LOT of Irish emigrated to the U.S.

    "From 1841 to World War II, some estimates conclude that 4.5 million Irish came to the United States."  from the iowaculture.gov website

    the U.S. has a huge population of people of Irish descent and probably why St. Patrick's day is so popular here. :)

  • RorrKonnRorrKonn Posts: 509
    Sevrin said:

    RorrKonn said:

    Does GPS work in Ireland ?

    Yeah, but it's all rainbows, pink hearts, green clovers and blue moons.  Takes getting used to.

    Ya ours are oak trees. barns .hollers. Dear trails. n creeks. And for some reason .when I hear they used a GPS it takes them twice as long to get there.
  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,480

    Sempie said:

    Sevrin said:

    AllenArt said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Didn't the Pilgrim Fathers come from England? 

    If memory serves (it's been a long, LONG time since grade school), the people on the Mayflower were primarily English and Dutch, or at least English living in the Netherlands

    :)

    Laurie 

    The pilgrims were mostly Puritans, i.e., Protestants.  They didn't have much truck with saints and their holidays.. 

    Indeed. The Pilgrims fled from Oliver Cromwell, settled down in the Netherlands for a while, that offered them shelter, then set sail for America. They were definitely not Irish.

     

    Don't think thats quite accurate - the English civil war ended in 1651, Oliver Cromwell took power after that the Mayflower left England in 1620. 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    scorpio said:

    Sempie said:

    Sevrin said:

    AllenArt said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Didn't the Pilgrim Fathers come from England? 

    If memory serves (it's been a long, LONG time since grade school), the people on the Mayflower were primarily English and Dutch, or at least English living in the Netherlands

    :)

    Laurie 

    The pilgrims were mostly Puritans, i.e., Protestants.  They didn't have much truck with saints and their holidays.. 

    Indeed. The Pilgrims fled from Oliver Cromwell, settled down in the Netherlands for a while, that offered them shelter, then set sail for America. They were definitely not Irish.

     

    Don't think thats quite accurate - the English civil war ended in 1651, Oliver Cromwell took power after that the Mayflower left England in 1620. 

    I guess that would have been duing King James 1 reign? Or Charles I? James I think. 

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited March 2021

    AllenArt said:

    scorpio said:

    Sempie said:

    Sevrin said:

    AllenArt said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Didn't the Pilgrim Fathers come from England? 

    If memory serves (it's been a long, LONG time since grade school), the people on the Mayflower were primarily English and Dutch, or at least English living in the Netherlands

    :)

    Laurie 

    The pilgrims were mostly Puritans, i.e., Protestants.  They didn't have much truck with saints and their holidays.. 

    Indeed. The Pilgrims fled from Oliver Cromwell, settled down in the Netherlands for a while, that offered them shelter, then set sail for America. They were definitely not Irish.

     

    Don't think thats quite accurate - the English civil war ended in 1651, Oliver Cromwell took power after that the Mayflower left England in 1620. 

    I guess that would have been duing King James 1 reign? Or Charles I? James I think. 

    The English Civil War(s) between 1642 and 1651.  Charles 1st.(1625-1649)
    The Pilgrim movement actually started during the reigh of Henry 8th (1549-1547)
    The Mayflower   mostly English originally from Lincolnshire and Sth Yorkshire who fled originally to the Nederlands earlier in the 17th century.  A few Nederlanders joined them  whne they returned to Britain to then sail from Plymouth to the US.in 1620  when James 1st (1603-1625) was on the Throne.

     

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  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    Chohole said:

    AllenArt said:

    scorpio said:

    Sempie said:

    Sevrin said:

    AllenArt said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Didn't the Pilgrim Fathers come from England? 

    If memory serves (it's been a long, LONG time since grade school), the people on the Mayflower were primarily English and Dutch, or at least English living in the Netherlands

    :)

    Laurie 

    The pilgrims were mostly Puritans, i.e., Protestants.  They didn't have much truck with saints and their holidays.. 

    Indeed. The Pilgrims fled from Oliver Cromwell, settled down in the Netherlands for a while, that offered them shelter, then set sail for America. They were definitely not Irish.

     

    Don't think thats quite accurate - the English civil war ended in 1651, Oliver Cromwell took power after that the Mayflower left England in 1620. 

    I guess that would have been duing King James 1 reign? Or Charles I? James I think. 

    The English Civil War(s) between 1642 and 1651.  Charles 1st.(1625-1649)
    The Pilgrim movement actually started during the reigh of Henry 8th (1549-1547)
    The Mayflower   mostly English originally from Lincolnshire and Sth Yorkshire who fled originally to the Nederlands earlier in the 17th century.  A few Nederlanders joined them  whne they returned to Britain to then sail from Plymouth to the US.in 1620  when James 1st (1603-1625) was on the Throne.

     

    It wasn't the US when they sailed, though.  That happened a century and a half and a considerable todo later.  At the time it was just called "the hell out of here".

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677

    I think lionizing people of the past rarely works out well. St. Patrick is no exception as the son of a  tax collector, he likely profited, and sold enslaved peoples as did the church during this time period. 

     

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421

    Miss Bad Wolf said:

    I would love an Irish red head lass.

    Nothing's preventing you from creating one. smiley Most hair in your library probably has a red or even orange colour option.

    And that's the thing, really... Banshees? The store already has some. Leprechauns? Just get the vertically-challenged fellow released at Christmas and apply some more green-themed shaders to the relevant clothing (or the excellent Dolb HD, which was recently available for a huge discount). There is even an ability to create rainbows and lots of gold props. There isn't really much which is obviously Irish which isn't already very available.

    There isn't really anything for Daz Studio to sell which is not already out there.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,225
    edited March 2021

    Xenomorphine said:

    There isn't really anything for Daz Studio to sell which is not already out there.

    This is true. yes

    However, some of us enjoy harmless banter about the bundle themes and the included bundle items and the bundle prices. Some Calendar days are associated with particular events and cultures that Daz might choose as a theme. The choice of an Egyptian princess instead of an Irish lass on March 17th is as worthy of discussion as anything else.  But maybe there is a link.  Maybe Daz employees are aware of Irish legends.

    Reminder - Irish legend of Princess Scota, an Egyptian princess who cofounded cultures in the British Isles.  

    A key word here is legend.  See  http://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-tara-prince-egyptian-princess-and.html

     

     

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