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May I know the name of these outfits from these promos please?

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  • Rod Wise DriggoRod Wise Driggo Posts: 2,229

    That is quite a number to ask for. Have you tried to contact the PA on it?

  • Altar_boyAltar_boy Posts: 91
    edited March 2021

    Rod Wise Driggo said:

    That is quite a number to ask for. Have you tried to contact the PA on it?

    PA? sorry I don't know what that is. I'm a beginner.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,744

    PA = Published Artist, the person who made the set. Given whi it is they are probably "kit bashed" (cobinations of items from different sets) or even custom items.

  • Altar_boyAltar_boy Posts: 91
    edited March 2021

    Richard Haseltine said:

    PA = Published Artist, the person who made the set. Given whi it is they are probably "kit bashed" (cobinations of items from different sets) or even custom items.

    I don't think this is my job to contact each and every person when i'm interested in buying something. I think this is the administration s job to link each product and name it if they are interested in making money and selling their products. The client isn't forced to give private messages just to buy the respective product. I guess I won't buy the products since I don't even know what products are they. smiley

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  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,480

    Contact support, there are no admin in the forums just volunteers and other members

  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,714
    edited March 2021

    Here's one that wwas used in the first and fourth prmo you asked about:

    https://www.daz3d.com/space-racer-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

    This headdress/collar was used in the first image:

    https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/?ViewProduct=140210

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,781
    edited March 2021

    hans_nikolas said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    PA = Published Artist, the person who made the set. Given whi it is they are probably "kit bashed" (cobinations of items from different sets) or even custom items.

    I don't think this is my job to contact each and every person when i'm interested in buying something. I think this is the administration s job to link each product and name it if they are interested in making money and selling their products. The client isn't forced to give private messages just to buy the respective product. I guess I won't buy the products since I don't even know what products are they. smiley

    You are missing the point, the product is jellybean, not all the items used in making the promos. PAs have a responsibility to make their promos as special and unique as they can to show off their product, it's called marketing.

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  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,714

    And, as I mentioned above, at least one item came from another store, which a vendor here physically can't link to.

  • Altar_boyAltar_boy Posts: 91
    edited March 2021

    Phoenix1966 said:

    Here's one that wwas used in the first and fourth prmo you asked about:

    https://www.daz3d.com/space-racer-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

    This headdress/collar was used in the first image:

    https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/?ViewProduct=140210

    Thank you.

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • Altar_boyAltar_boy Posts: 91
    edited March 2021

    FSMCDesigns said:

    hans_nikolas said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    PA = Published Artist, the person who made the set. Given whi it is they are probably "kit bashed" (cobinations of items from different sets) or even custom items.

    I don't think this is my job to contact each and every person when i'm interested in buying something. I think this is the administration s job to link each product and name it if they are interested in making money and selling their products. The client isn't forced to give private messages just to buy the respective product. I guess I won't buy the products since I don't even know what products are they. smiley

    You are missing the point, the product is jellybean, not all the items used in making the promos. PAs have a responsibility to make their promos as special and unique as they can to show off their product, it's called marketing.

    That's a bit deceiving because some people would like to see the model in daz like in the promo pictures.

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  • Altar_boyAltar_boy Posts: 91
    edited March 2021

    Phoenix1966 said:

    And, as I mentioned above, at least one item came from another store, which a vendor here physically can't link to.

    I understand.

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  • Altar_boyAltar_boy Posts: 91
    edited March 2021

    Richard Haseltine said:

    PA = Published Artist, the person who made the set. Given whi it is they are probably "kit bashed" (cobinations of items from different sets) or even custom items.

    I see thank you for the information. I will also try to add the title in the description next time. I'm not very used to forum rules plus I'm not english so somethimes I have dificulties understanding things others say.

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  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026
    edited March 2021

    hans_nikolas said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    PA = Published Artist, the person who made the set. Given whi it is they are probably "kit bashed" (cobinations of items from different sets) or even custom items.

    I see thank you for the information. I will also try to add the title in the description next time. I'm not very used to forum rules plus I'm not english so somethimes I have dificulties understanding things others say.

     @hans_nikolas - Just a tip - to be able to type your own message under the one you are quoting, and to prevent confusion as to what is the original post and what is your response, you need to click somewhere in the quoted message, then move your cursor to the bottom right corner and click the little red icon seen in the attached image.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,744

    watchdog79 said:

    hans_nikolas said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    PA = Published Artist, the person who made the set. Given whi it is they are probably "kit bashed" (cobinations of items from different sets) or even custom items.

    I see thank you for the information. I will also try to add the title in the description next time. I'm not very used to forum rules plus I'm not english so somethimes I have dificulties understanding things others say.

     @hans_nikolas - Just a tip - to be able to type your own message under the one you are quoting, and to prevent confusion as to what is the original post and what is your response, you need to click somewhere in the quoted message, then move your cursor to the bottom right corner and click the little red icon seen in the attached image.

    I've fixed the quotes, for anyone confused by this.

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 2,674

    hans_nikolas said:

    That's a bit deceiving because some people would like to see the model in daz like in the promo pictures.

    While Daz encourage PAs to list the other products they use, it's not considered mandatory; A product can have a dozen or more promo shots that *are* used, and even more that get rejected or replaced for various reasons, which means that keeping track of all the assets can become a job in its own right... even assuming that the PA did the promo renders themselves (many outsource to other artists, allowing them more time to work on the underlying products).

    For many PAs, this is already not a particularly well paid occupation, and having to take time and effort to catalogue everything used in every one of their promo renders means one of the following: They release fewer products, they have to make simpler promos (both of which reduce their income) or just have to work more hours.

    More than that, take this gallery entry of mine, which was done to experiment with what RawArt's Medusa Maker product could do. It's not unthinkable for a PA to do a promo shot like that, either to be adventurous or show off "in use" examples of their product rather than posed modelling shots. The problem here is that single render has 29 products listed under it (and I haven't even tried to work out what poses I used as a starting point or listed stuff like the standard Genesis 3/8 morphs). It wouldn't be hard to imagine that a product page could list a hundred or more different assets that were used, at which point the end-users would still be frustrated trying to find the one specific product they wanted, albeit for a different reason.

    And that's still excluding the possibility that the asset is even actually available. PAs may have altered the textures for that outfit you like, or morphed that character up from a mix of other shapes - or just modelled whatever it is entirely from scratch. At this point, you can't even really earnestly list the assets.

    I'll also reiterate what others say - some assets are from other stores, and Daz won't link out to other sites.

    As such, it's not viable or reasonable for Daz to mandate that every product is listed. That may be annoying, but that's the only practical way the store can be run. I try to be philosophical about it; I may not be able to use every character I like, or get my hands on every outfit I want... but there's still more out there than I will ever be able to use.

  • SeraSera Posts: 1,675

    The PA's job is to sell thier *own* items, not every item they use from other artists.

    When a company is selling a T shirt and they use a human model for the job in real life, they don't include the human model's name, telephone number or Agency info. They want you to focus on the T shirt.

    Daz, as a company, does not make the images used on an item's page. The artist does, and thier focus is on that specific product, not every product ever. Also, there are many products an artist is not allowed to link to, even if they wanted to, because they are not sold here.

    It's really nice when sellers include this information but it's not fair to expect it. Also, the people in the forums are very knowledgeable and will help you as much as they can to figure it out. We understand that a good promo can make you want something that's being used. So please just ask in the forums when you have a question about an item and we will try to help.

  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631

    if i were the daz shop manager i would allow only daz products in promos with direct shop links

    they should sell alot more then

    but i am not

  • Altar_boyAltar_boy Posts: 91

    Richard Haseltine said:

    watchdog79 said:

    hans_nikolas said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    PA = Published Artist, the person who made the set. Given whi it is they are probably "kit bashed" (cobinations of items from different sets) or even custom items.

    I see thank you for the information. I will also try to add the title in the description next time. I'm not very used to forum rules plus I'm not english so somethimes I have dificulties understanding things others say.

     @hans_nikolas - Just a tip - to be able to type your own message under the one you are quoting, and to prevent confusion as to what is the original post and what is your response, you need to click somewhere in the quoted message, then move your cursor to the bottom right corner and click the little red icon seen in the attached image.

    I've fixed the quotes, for anyone confused by this.

    Like this? I think I understand. 

  • Altar_boyAltar_boy Posts: 91

    Ruphuss said:

    if i were the daz shop manager i would allow only daz products in promos with direct shop links

    they should sell alot more then

    but i am not

    I agree with you. 

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    certaintree38 said:

    When a company is selling a T shirt and they use a human model for the job in real life, they don't include the human model's name, telephone number or Agency info. They want you to focus on the T shirt.

     And they really don't like it if you bug them about it.  Although... Michael Caine first saw his future wife in a Maxwell House coffee advertisment on TV and married her two years later.  I'm sure being Michael Caine helped, though.

  • LucielLuciel Posts: 475

    certaintree38 said:

    The PA's job is to sell thier *own* items, not every item they use from other artists.

    Kind of wish some DAZ originals did it though, it is DAZ's job to sell content from all the other people on the store. 

    Though also, linking other people's products probably helps create an enviroment where people will link to yours in return. 

  • razor_crrazor_cr Posts: 10

    Second promo image posted here: https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-fzx-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

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