Why so many high heels

Ellessarr

FSMCDesigns said:

This is a small market and because of it PAs are probably not willing to take as many chances, especially those that do this for a living on "a chance" something might sell. I have seen quite a few threads wre users were asking for a male product and a PA chimed in with their sales results after making a product outside their comfort zone that didn't sell and that one product was enough for them to not do it again. The PAs know what works for them and what doesn't when it comes to sales, we don't. Just because something makes sense to us, doesn't mean it makes sense in reality. users already cry that the prices here are to high, so if a PA took the extra time to create extra shoes, then that would increase the price, so that is another gamble the PA has to take when it comes to creating/losing sales..

if make "one more pair of shoes would increase the cost and time to make then well then they could just "add morphs" for the shoes like those

https://www.daz3d.com/amazing-morphing-pumps-for-genesis-8-females

https://www.daz3d.com/amazing-morphing-boots-for-genesis-8-females

single pairs of shoes which can be "flat" and high heels, i would be really happy if they try to at last follow this patern for the ones which loves to make "high heels", this would make both sides very happy.

Torquinox

It's enough work that the products you pointed to are whole products by themselves. They're not just included with an existing outfit.

Ellessarr

Torquinox said:

It's enough work that the products you pointed to are whole products by themselves. They're not just included with an existing outfit.

they are not the "only shoes products" you do have a lot of "only shoes products being sold, what is matter is the artist and what he wants to make. 

i also recall seeying some heels products which do have a heel adjust morph, not like those one but you can adjust a little the heels which show which you can do that too if some artists do it for the same price.

Torquinox

Ellessarr said:

Torquinox said:

It's enough work that the products you pointed to are whole products by themselves. They're not just included with an existing outfit.

they are not the "only shoes products" you do have a lot of "only shoes products being sold, what is matter is the artist and what he wants to make. 

i also recall seeying some heels products which do have a heel adjust morph, not like those one but you can adjust a little the heels which show which you can do that too if some artists do it for the same price.

Yes, the products are only shoes, not an outfit with shoes. Many older (and some newer) outfits don't include shoes. But the outfits that do include shoes usually have the heels they have. Some shoes with outfits may have adjustable heels, but I don't recall any particular items at the moment. And I don't have sales numbers for any of that. IDK if the adjustable heels were worth the effort in terms of time and money.

Ellessarr

Torquinox said:

Ellessarr said:

Torquinox said:

It's enough work that the products you pointed to are whole products by themselves. They're not just included with an existing outfit.

they are not the "only shoes products" you do have a lot of "only shoes products being sold, what is matter is the artist and what he wants to make. 

i also recall seeying some heels products which do have a heel adjust morph, not like those one but you can adjust a little the heels which show which you can do that too if some artists do it for the same price.

Yes, the products are only shoes, not an outfit with shoes. Many older (and some newer) outfits don't include shoes. But the outfits that do include shoes usually have the heels they have. Some shoes with outfits may have adjustable heels, but I don't recall any particular items at the moment. And I don't have sales numbers for any of that. IDK if the adjustable heels were worth the effort in terms of time and money.

yeah that is the issue if no one give a try on that we never gonna know because that is the problem in the end of the day, we only can know if anyone give a try in make outfits with proper adjustable heels where you could morph from a styleto, from a flat or boot, in this way we can see if the product will sell or not, but if none is trying then we don't know for sure? 

FSMCDesigns

PAs are artists as well and creativity plays a big factor in their design choices and workflow more than someone that is just creating a product for the customer. There is literally something that doesn't work for me in nearly everything I have bought from DAZ. from type of shoes, to cut of the outfit, to the fit, to the accessories, to the design, etc.You learn to adapt, make your own or do without.

One thing to also keep on mind is that a PA is going to make what they want to make, their creative vision of what they are developing. If a PA like HM doesn't like the look of flats on their fantasy armour, then they are not going to take the extra time and effort to make flats or morphs. Take Rawart, he does great work, but his products are also very limiting because of his creative vision of only creating a full character with no seperate head and body morphs. Many in the fourms like myself don't like this since we like to mix and match morphs. Granted I would buy more from him if he did have both head and body morphs, but I understand his creative vision in doing it the way he does.

Krzysztofa

For anyone following this thread, the https://www.daz3d.com/s3d-fc-boots-for-genesis-3-and-8-females are in the current flash sale. They look like they can kitbash well with most fantasy outfits

PerttiA

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/03/world/europe/ukraine-military-heels.html

Orphanslayer69

I've saved myself a lot of money not buying Ninjas and Rangers in 5 inch heels 

EightiesIsEnough

The one thing I am having a hard time finding is high heeled sandals for Genesis 3 females.  I have no problem finding them for Genesis 8, but I can't seem to find any for Genesis 3 female.  Any links to high heeled sandals for Genesis 3 females?

EDIT: Never mind, I haven't posted to this thread in quite some time, and I looked back at a link someone posted to a store that may have what I am looking for.

Vueiy

Orphanslayer69 said:

I've saved myself a lot of money not buying Ninjas and Rangers in 5 inch heels 

lol, same.  Heels and/or overly-revealing-bra/shirt are usually make-or-break for me.  I can't help but analyze everything I see, so when an outfit is too impractical (thus none of my characters would wear it), I can't make myself buy it.  There is a legitimate strategy to women wearing revealing clothing (draws the eye and slows an opponent's reaction time; see DOA championships, lol), but at the point where it would hamper the one wearing it, I draw the line.

nicstt

ShadowSkillz said:

margrave said:

I've gotten a lot of mileage out of these:

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-protector-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

But really, PAs should just be making sensible shoes for fantasy adventurers.

100% agree with this, annoyed that i'm buying clothing sets that look great but have to be throwing out the boots and it wouldn't be difficult for them to just simply do both a heeled and none heeled. 

I don't buy em, unless they are cheap - and even then many I pass on cuase of heels.

Vote with wallet.

... Then again, a chainmail bikini is not amour. I don't buy those either.

chris-2599934

Hey, you wanna see a lotta high heels?

kervala

chris-2599934 said:

Hey, you wanna see a lotta high heels?

It's excellent <3 Thanks for the sharing :D

 

Oso3D

Ellessarr said:

yeah that is the issue if no one give a try on that we never gonna know because that is the problem in the end of the day, we only can know if anyone give a try in make outfits with proper adjustable heels where you could morph from a styleto, from a flat or boot, in this way we can see if the product will sell or not, but if none is trying then we don't know for sure? 

Why do you assume it hasn't been tried?

 

Leana

chris-2599934 said:

Hey, you wanna see a lotta high heels?