Matching G8M for Carboncrow Gals
duckbomb
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Hey peeps!
I have a bit of a subjective question to pose to you... which G8M would you pair with one of the Carboncrow girls? I ask, because they all have a very specific (albiet somewhat similar) look to them, and while any one of them would be a lot of fun to use in a scene, I'm having a hard time finding an appropriate Male to put in next to them. It's no secret that sometimes DAZ characters can look "from different worlds" if you mix and match the wrong ones, so do any of you know of a male counterpart who looks like they belong in the same world as these gals?
For reference, here's a link to the newest character, Nimue HD, but honestly (at least to me) they all have so much in common that I don't really mind who you'd pair the guy with, just interested in who that guy might be: https://www.daz3d.com/nimue-hd-for-genesis-81-female
Just to give some context, also, I've been trying to fit Stephen HD, but I find his model to be a little more "puffy" and rounded, if that makes any sense, and he doesn't really fit: https://www.daz3d.com/ry-steven-for-michael-8
Anybody have any ideas?
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IRL and films, couples often look like they're from different worlds. Do you really need to add an extra criterion for your art? But, if you must, I suggest looking through VincentXyooj's catalogue.
Your point is well received, I do understand what you mean. I suppose, my struggle is that because of the differences in the "artistic hands" of the sculpters, when I pair men with these girls either one or the other ends up looking "unnatural". I'm not sure if that makes sense... it's kind of like how one weird little thing can make an expression or a digital person feel off, but in thise case it's teh contrast between the characters.
I'll take a look at his catalogue right now! Many thanks!
Maybe I just have a less critical eye, but I think Darius meshes just fine with the three CarbonCrow gals that were available when I made this render:
Hongyan
Your eye looks great to me! I hadn't tried him... honestly, I hadn't even tried him. You are right, he seems to fit in there well!
I think I know what you mean about the characters not fitting with others. I suspect it might be the way the skin is shaded. A possible solution is using one of the shaders on a guy. Here is Zhao's mats on herself and Gabor. You'll need https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-8-uv-swap-male-and-female-base which is on sale now.
I had the same question, so I ran some experiments. With most of these I've smashed down the specular sliders. I think what I'm trying to match is the delicate sculpt in the hands and feet. The Carboncrow textures feel like a matte photo.
Leland, skin seems to fit-in out of the box, but doesn't have the required sculpt: (https://www.daz3d.com/leland-for-genesis-8-male):
Calvin with Fiore's skin - all the shiny turned down (https://www.daz3d.com/calvin-for-genesis-8-male and https://www.daz3d.com/fiore-for-genesis-8-male):
Vlad with a bunch of Floyd and Floyd's HD dialled in to get the hand and feet details, I don't have Vlad's HD (https://www.daz3d.com/vladimir-8)
Torment and his HD (https://www.daz3d.com/torment-8-1):
Phoe, who I really thought would work, but pores and stuff appear too big, might be able to fiddle with the bump/normals (https://www.daz3d.com/phoe-for-genesis-8-male)
The hardest was finding a good black man to match the ash tones of Bernice. I haven't yet come up with a good match, all the guys I have are too orange, but here is Lewis.
Edit, fixed the links, sorry.
Faber's gents come to mind. They have a similar sort of maturity and strongly defined features.
Gordig I have a question how did you get footwear to fit properly the CarbonCrow girls? I have a devil of a time the shoes crinkle up on me.
Good observation! I hadn't tried that.. I'll give it a go, thanks!
Wow! Thank you for all of the information and the examples! Yes... you see what I'm also struggling with... I've had the same issues. For Bernice, I finally just gave up and put Darcy's textures on her. I don't mind the stock textures for these gals, but they are nothing amazing. They do, however, accentuate the sharp sculpt, so I'm often torn between wanting to use them but having to carefully pair them up, or just replacing the skin. Amala's skin on Hagar works really well, also!
On the subject of CarbonCrow skin, I once accidentally removed the top coat color image from Zhao's skin and it resulted in an interesting effect. I'm not sure if similar results would happen with the other CC mats, but I bet they would.
Oh, I'll have to try swapping out the girls' skins. I wonder how much of the fine detail is backed into the texture.
Carboncrow just needs to make us a few dudes, really. :D
Agreed! Either that, or other PAs need to check out how Carboncrow does skin mats. Often, I find Zhao doesn't fit into scenes because she makes the other characters look artificial.
Here she is between two other well-known skins, Mei Lin 7 and Dain 8. FWIW, I think she looks pretty good with Dain.
discovered Carboncrow with this thread
nice find
are the skins as good as they seem to be ?
Wow, I never liked Dain in his promo images, but he doesn't look too bad there. He has more lip gloss than she does.
Ruphuss, they're pretty good, but can be a bit difficult to work with in some lighting conditions, allmost like the lighting texture is a wee bit under exposed. I've had a bit of trouble getting them over to Blender so far, but I probably just need to do more shader adjustment.
Here is Bernice in her skin on the left, and wearing Monique's on the right. (I don't have Darcy).
Zhao in the small promos looks different than the renders i see here and like the big promo
Zhao HD for Genesis 8 Female | Daz 3D
i like the skin on the small promos
only other lighting ?