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i put that one in my request. this would be the config. what do you think? :-)
costs about 1500$ here by the way
(the card you suggested is actually cheaper than the nvidia quadro. why is that?)
thanks again!
Looks good, is that in US dollars?
yes, US dollars
things here in europe are more expensive than in the US
nothing i can improve (without dramatically increasing cost)?
I'm working in GBP £, I calculate that you're around £120 away from an i7-5820 system with the same specs.
that's a faster processor? will it make much of a difference?
You get 2 extra cores, 6 cores will make significant difference in rendering times.
Its on the latest X99 motherboard which gives you a bit of future-proofing with new technologies like M.2 and DDR4.
Depending on how much extra it costs where you live, I think its worth considering.
i see. i'll check that
another question (tell me when you get tired): will 16 vs 32G RAM make much of a difference?
best
ok, i checked for the intel core i7 5820K (3.3ghz, 6 core) and it is still ok in terms of price range
(about 190 euros more). they said it's indeed on another motherboard
i would get this with 32G
does win 7 or 8 make a difference? (personally i'm still using 7)
My own machine still uses win 7. I'm slowly introducing win 8 at work and since the update to 8.1 its been fine perhaps a tiny bit faster.
The amount of RAM allows you to put more things in a scene, it doesn't speed up rendering.
Well, yes and no, If you run out of RAM with while rendering and your system needs more memory it's going to start caching from the Hard Drive and your renders will get slower, unless you have sufficient physical RAM to prevent it from happening. This really depends on how many elements are in your proposed render to begin with, but if you only need 2GB to render the scene to begin with and you have 128GB RAM it's not going speed up the render.
thanks for all your help prixat, i've ordered my new machine :-)
Great! Is it much more than you expected to pay?
I like spending other peoples money! :cheese:
:-)
i was aiming for about 1200 € and it's 1566. that's okay :-) i do hope that it will be seriously faster than my present system, and that it will last me awhile :-)
Glad to see you you came to a conclusion and hope you got my PM reply. Not really sure reading the above but did you eventually go for the i7 x99 chipset ?
cheers :-)
musicplayer, you didn't get my pm to you, replying on yours? :-)
i'm not even sure if i know what the 99 chipset is, but if it's the sixcore i7 5820K, then yes, that's the one i got :-)
I got a GTX750-OC-2GD5 card, a samsung 840 EVO 500G SSD drive, 32G
glad that's over. from now on i'm not looking at any advice anymore, cause it's too late :)
fyi: http://www.ted.com/talks/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice?language=en :-)
fyi this is the comparison between my old and new processor:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-5820K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2410M/2579vs2769
(btw, i hope i didn't hijack anyone's thread here, with all my questions)
when i look at this it seems kind of incredible i've used daz for so long on my machine
http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/100304
now i expect a lot :-)
Have a look at the benchmark results in this thread:
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/48286/P45
47 seconds is the time to beat for the dragon slayer scene.
I just did a benchmark test on my four year old i7 920 vs the similar price point Intel Core i7-3770S from the current crop.
the 3770S is faster obviously but so little has been made in the way of speed gains in all that time I'm going to wait until another generation of chips before anything gets upgraded.
prixat (or someone else), if you still want to help me out:
today i got news that the guy who's building my computer made a mistake in his quote and didn't take into account that he could only use DDR4. he was counting on DDR3, and the price difference is too much (about 600 € difference for 32G), so i'm looking at alternatives
he suggested the 4930K, also a six core processor, which is DDR3
what do you think about that?
or should i consider any other alternatives? or is the DDR4 with the new motherboard really worth the price?
thanks!
or would it be an idea to buy the 5820 with 16G and wait for the price of the DR4 memory to drop and then buy more?
I would go with a reduced amount of memory as its the easiest thing to add later. Even a single stick of 8GB.
Its the 'potential' of all the new technologies that has to be weighed against the price/availability of the existing technologies.
I expect DDR4 will come down in price quite quickly just like DDR3 did.
thank you. i was waiting for you to make my decision :)
another thing: i'm reading that DDR4 will get faster as it gets more adopted or something
does that mean that the ddr4 i buy now will actually be faster later (be used more efficiently), or will there be other versions of ddr4 coming out later?
and also: what about 5820 vs 5930? (5960x is too expensive)
thanks!
:lol:
You can push the speeds of the memory sticks a bit as they are essentially all the same. But if a stick is good at a higher speed then its probably already been rated (and priced) at that higher speed by the manufacturer.
Speed is not the selling point of DDR4.
The architecture has changed to allow larger amounts on a single stick. 32GB on a single stick, soon!
Potentially 64GB, 128GB maybe even 512GB per stick!
The big difference in moving to the 5930 is getting the full 40 PCI Express lanes.
Bear in mind the previous generation of i7 only had 16 lanes so your 5820 already has a big increase to 28 lanes.
More and more things are using PCIe lanes, there's a possibility of running out of lanes then you lose functionality like the M.2 or Sata Express.
The 28 lanes of the 5820 limit it to 'ONLY' 3 nVidia graphics cards in SLI, for example.
If you wanted to put in four GTX 980s to get the most out of Octane then you would have to swap out the 5820.
ok, i'm going for the 5820, for the moment with 16G. i'll wait for DDR4ram prices to drop
nobody tell me anything bad about my choice, or i'll scream :-)
thanks prixat!
Please don't scream, but one thing to look into is that some youtube computer builders who are using x99 chipset motherboards have said that they have found it has been best to buy an all matched set of DDR4.
For example if you only want 16Gb then that will be 2 x 8 Gb.
The DDR4 must be in matched pairs or quad sets. So if you want 32Gb it must be a matched quad set of 4 x 8Gb.
There was a comment where someone bought 16Gb of DDR4 and then later bought another separate 16Gb and the motherboard failed to recognise some of the second purchase because all 32Gb was not a matched "quad" set even though each 8Gb module was identical. Most of the new x99 chipset motherboards have 8 Dimm slots for the memory and it is important which slots are used and which are not, unless you are filling all 8 slots.
This has been mentioned a few times and so you might like to check this out yourself to see the validity of these claims.
Hope this helps rather than add more confusion.
Cheers :-)
thanks, i'll pass that on to the store. hope they know it :-)
best wishes
Hi,
I was planning to upgrade my graphics card Geforce gtx 1060 6gb to rtx 3070 when it comes out. But I was hoping before I do that is my computer will still be okay with that specific card with i7-6700k @ 4.00 ghz and my psu is 700w brozne? Thank you
Both would be fine.
Personally, I'd get Ryzen.
Alright so I see that getting this NVIDIA 3070 card is way harder than I thought. So I was hoping it is worth it to upgrade from 1060 6gb to rtx 2060 super or rtx 2070 super?