Why is any new release at DAZ so 70's

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  • johnjohn808johnjohn808 Posts: 179

    ANGELREAPER1972 said:

    johnjohn808 said:

    90`s .....

    It was a great time for me! 

    I was a touring metal/punk musician living the life!

    But I cant remember anything that sticks out as far as men`s fashion fom back then. 

    Today`s shorts look the same, and so do the T-shirts.. But then again, Im still wearing the same garb today as I was back then LOL

    Heck, I wore my Pantera Cowboy`s From Hell T-shirt to work today, and they still sell the same shirt design!

    I know because some high school kid was wearing the same shirt hahaha

    mostly jeans, tshirts, studs lots of studs, leather, denium jackets with band patches, recently bought a ac/dc hoodie with album patches. Belts big belt buckles , sleeveless jackets, high heel boots for some, studded armbands or nails sticking out of them, lingerie, kinky stuff,  I was still a fan of the 70/80s+ metal/hard rock I'd post few examples but they'd get deleted

    To me that sounds more like the 80`s glamrock era.

    I was so happy when alternative music came in the 90`s. I could finally get rid of the leather, boots, big spiked hair and rediculous mascara LOL

    Traded that all in for shorts, t-shirts, Airwalks, and dreads (before shaving them off later in my punk rock era)

    But I did bring the spikes back out when we opened up for Testament. Hey.. how can you not?! hehehe

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,040

    johnjohn808 said:

    90`s .....

    It was a great time for me! 

    I was a touring metal/punk musician living the life!

    But I cant remember anything that sticks out as far as men`s fashion fom back then. 

    Today`s shorts look the same, and so do the T-shirts.. But then again, Im still wearing the same garb today as I was back then LOL

    Heck, I wore my Pantera Cowboy`s From Hell T-shirt to work today, and they still sell the same shirt design!

    I know because some high school kid was wearing the same shirt hahaha

    Oh I remember the clothes. I lived near the infamous Rainbow Bar & Grill on the Sunset Strip where Guns N’Roses shot one of their music videos and often partied. I used to go there several times a week. Girls all dressed like Kelly Bundy on Married with Children. Guys basically all looked like Guns n’Roses, Poison,Warrant, etc...Long hair, tattoos, tight jeans or leather pants, cowboy boots with spiky metal things and tons of bangle bracelets and more jewelry than any woman would wear. Then Nirvana happened, grunge took over and killed the Rainbow and everyone started wearing plaid and Doc Martens. 

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    jestmart said:

    Retro does not refer to a specific time period.  It simply means in the style of something 20 to 30 years past.

    Actually  retro  means  similar to styles, fashions, etc. from the past:or looking at or copying the past.   No specific  dates are amount of time  in the past.

  • joegerardijoegerardi Posts: 226

    Ascania said:

    There are two undeniable facts in this world: One, the seventies had the best music...

    Oh, God, yes. Progressive rock of ELP, Yes, Genesis, Triumvirat, U2, et al; Pop bands NOT singing about shooting someone, or raping them, great stuff.

     

    ..Joe

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,042

    My favorite eras were the 60s, 70s and 90s.
    I have always hated the 80s. Hated the music hated the fashion, hated the politics and hated the mindset. Wish 80s never happened.

  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,164

    The seventies was a great time to be alive! Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, rock on!

  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,855

    Masterstroke said:

    My favorite eras were the 60s, 70s and 90s.
    I have always hated the 80s. Hated the music hated the fashion, hated the politics and hated the mindset. Wish 80s never happened.

    I can't agree. The 80s produced some of the best metal and late punk. The rest is landfill, though.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,187

    You're all wrong. No era produced better music than any other. 

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,316

    It's used to be that you could hear good music on the radio because they have no qualms playing a song that was good but not the genre of the radio station, aka crossopver hits, and that lack of crossover hits has made hit radio music of the recent past untenable mostly. I do try suggestions via YouTube that come up when I'm listening to oldies and those are pretty good many times. 

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,042
    edited May 2021

    Ascania said:

    Masterstroke said:

    My favorite eras were the 60s, 70s and 90s.
    I have always hated the 80s. Hated the music hated the fashion, hated the politics and hated the mindset. Wish 80s never happened.

    I can't agree. The 80s produced some of the best metal and late punk. The rest is landfill, though.

    Thx for replay :-)
    Metal is an 80s paradox. It became so 80s in its attemp to be anti-80s. I still don't know, why now metal is linked to 80s, when everybody I knew and heard of  in the 80s was hating metal.
    BTW: I've never understood punk.

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  • 80s was trash? The Police. Good parts of Michael Jackson's discography. Bowie was definitely active here. George MIchael. Madge's best work. Whitney. There's a lot of good in the 80s.

    Every era has its mix of trash and glory.

  • Kaleb242Kaleb242 Posts: 344

    I have to agree — there was definitely a lot of good and influential music in the 80s: Depeche Mode, The Smiths, The Cure, Jane's Addiction, Brian Eno, Pixies, U2, Paul Simon, Michael Jackson's Thriller, Prince, Siouxsie and the Banshees' Peepshow, R.E.M., The Clash, Tom Waits, Metallica, Tears for Fears, Run D.M.C., N.W.A.'s Straight Outta Compton, Beastie Boys, Killing Joke, Joy Division, Sonic Youth, so many... 

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,040

    Music keeps changing but fashion seems to have stopped in the 2000’s. Besides skinny jeans, t-shirts or hoodies, there’s no actual fashion in the 2000’s that you can look at and say “that was obviously 2010.” No signature hairstyles since The Rachel from friends. No high school photos for kids to look back at and cringe. We’ve just become generically blah...

  • Kaleb242Kaleb242 Posts: 344

    But — 2020 brought back sweat pants!

    Or maybe even no pants... who knows on all these Zoom calls anymore.

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288

    Blame haut coutoure's (sp?) dive into irrelevance. When people all looked to Paris there was identifiable fashion that the rest of the western world could recognize, and it had a sell-by date. Once Paris and it's rivals started looking to "street style" for inspiration, they lost any reason for why anyone should bother to listen to them. 

    Now the styles, such as they are, seem to be set by sportwear companies.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,040

    JOdel said:

    Blame haut coutoure's (sp?) dive into irrelevance. When people all looked to Paris there was identifiable fashion that the rest of the western world could recognize, and it had a sell-by date. Once Paris and it's rivals started looking to "street style" for inspiration, they lost any reason for why anyone should bother to listen to them. 

    Now the styles, such as they are, seem to be set by sportwear companies.

    Do you mean Paris the city or Paris Hilton? I live in LA and Paris Hilton has become irrelevant as have most trend setters. If anything, fashion has become more 70’s style with Coachella being a big deal and there’s a more down to earth, less flashy feel. Pre-Covid, girls were still wearing mini dresses and heels, bimbo clothes, at certain events, but no particular style really, Hairstyles are all over the place, mostly long with hair extensions. But that was pre-Covid. There have been no events yet although things are just starting to open up little by little. I wonder if it will bring a new surge to fashion because people got so bored living in t-shirts and legging lol. 

  • IceScribeIceScribe Posts: 694
    edited May 2021

    1970s had some of the ugliest fabric patterns ever for men's shirts. Often shiny. Don't forget the scarf, too. 

    I think the 80s would offer some great design. Big Shoulders, Big Hair, Enormous Earrings, Pumps with French heels, Patterned Hose, Collarless business suits for women.   When I say "big hair" I mean, like Dian Cannon, Dolly Parton, etc, (Prae does some great big hair), and the guys' "Mullet".  Big hair is not like the 1960s, which do's were usually shellacked into a stiff bubble or flip. Big 80s hair was sometimes quite wild. New  Wave came out, and that was experimenting with the surreal. I liked New Wave.  Then, there was the Miami Vice Iced Sherbert style big shoulders, soft linens, loose slacks. (contrast to the really really tight jeans and leather sport coat or "Club Med' leather jacket). Other fashion styles abounded. We wore just about anything we wanted. Country style, punk style, disco style, New Wave style, and so on. Lots of possibilities there.  

    The promos for 70s stuff  seem like spun off some old Starsky and Hutch episodes (not the reboot)

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  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,042
    edited May 2021

    Kaleb242 said:

    I have to agree — there was definitely a lot of good and influential music in the 80s: Depeche Mode, The Smiths, The Cure, Jane's Addiction, Brian Eno, Pixies, U2, Paul Simon, Michael Jackson's Thriller, Prince, Siouxsie and the Banshees' Peepshow, R.E.M., The Clash, Tom Waits, Metallica, Tears for Fears, Run D.M.C., N.W.A.'s Straight Outta Compton, Beastie Boys, Killing Joke, Joy Division, Sonic Youth, so many... 

    My personal list of 80s horror, except for Metallica ;-)

    BTW: My profile picture is a 1974 shot of Freddie Mercury.
    Even Queen sucked during the 80s. To me they were best in the 70s. laugh

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  • PitmaticPitmatic Posts: 918

    Kaleb242 said:

    Published Artists are clearly influenced by Video Games, TV Shows, Movies, Comics, Fashion, Musicians, and other forms of Pop Culture.

    The Cyberpunk themed stuff was pretty clearly aligned with the release of the video game Cyberpunk 2077 (for better or worse), and a lot of TV Shows have been bringing back "Retro" eras — WandaVision comes to mind (1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s TV Sitcom styles)... and Stranger Things (1980s era).

    They are drawing inspiration from combining these things and collectively making variations on a theme that rides on the waves of other highly anticipated top-of-mind content's publicity that the general public is getting exposed to, while trying hard not to violate copyrights at the same time. It must be a challenging task! They're also trying to capitalize on memorabilia and nostalgia that they believe will appeal to this particular niche 3D model buying audience... the Daz 3D Community.

    What Published Artists often fail to realize is that sewing patterns are generally not eligble for copyright protection, so they don't have to make such extreme alterations to clothing patterns...
    https://library.osu.edu/site/copyright/2014/07/14/patterns-and-copyright-protections/

    There's a huge catalog of untapped creative inspiration from the fashion world which is constantly reinventing itself, and is always reycling things from the past and reinterpretting it for the present. As long

    as they don't use any trademarked insignias, logos, symbols or phrases — they can make much more historically accurate clothing with more research.

     

     

    Thats very intersting Gunne Sax did loads of what we would consider now prairie Boho (ish) style dress as patterens and they are sought after for photoshoots so PAs could raid that catalogue for ideas?

    Now I lived throught the 70s and I thought they were pants frankly only saving graces to me some music  this is an example of a Gunne Sax dress (there are 70s beige horrors) but think hammer horror heroine armed with candle in dracs castle and I am good to go :)

     

     

     

     

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,040

    It’s a pain to post images on an iPad so if you google Coachella fashion, you will see how 70’s inspired it is. And because so many celebs and influencers attend Coachella, it spreads into the mainstream and 70’s fashion IS back. LA is starting to open up, I think by mid-June everything should be pretty open and events will start up again. It will be interesting to see what kind of fashion emerges. Because we have so many celebs and influencers here, LA fashion tends to spread worldwide. And of course they normally attend fashion shows worldwide but that may not happen for a while. So there may be a lot of localized fashion that spreads through social media. I just hope it’s anything besides jeans and hoodies...

    Just googled spring fashion 2021 and it does coincide with a lot of Daz offerings. Lots of long flowy flowery dfrorce type dresses and skirts. I personally am not a fan of long dresses, either on myself or Daz characters. Oh well, I don’t have a lot of money to spend on my clothes because it’s all going to my characters’ wardrobe lol. 

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