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Oh, I'd say that most of my fellow students from my school at that time left with the merest glimmer of an understanding of grammar. Perhaps spelling was a little better because we did have spelling tests quite regularly (the English teacher seemed to love humiliating those who made mistakes). I do agree with the comments about the internet and phone texting. I also think that reading has to compete with so many other forms of entertainment these days.
I have always maintained that my love of comics (DC and Marvel) from childhood through my teens introduced me to a lifetime of reading for pleasure. Reading comics was frowned upon in those days so, like any normal child, I couldn't get enough of them. I was also fascinated by all the comic hero gadgets and wondered how they might work so I developed a life-long interest in science - at least the kind of science that is associated with awe and wonder like cosmology, the nature of time and space travel. That led to reading Sci-Fi novels and then on to general fiction. So, in short, reading was my escape into the fantastic and I think that kids these days have so many other ways to discover that kind of excitement without ever opening a book.
Typos are, by definition, mistakes. I usually re-read my posts and edit typos (because I make so many) but I still miss a few. I'm also aware that my spelling is not perfect, nor is my grammar. I think the complaint here is that the general quality of written English has declined somewhat and that it is sad to see some of the more egregious errors becoming accepted as the new normal.
Reading all the above makes me feel glad growing up as a german in Germany getting taught english by german teachers that studied at Oxford or Cambridge (at least for a while, usually), who frowned upon my american accent that I picked up from watching american movies in subtitled versions, but on the other hand appreciated me being a frequent reader of english MAD Magazine.
Now, about 50 or so years later I lack in the "spoken english" department a lot - due to being there no need to english in day-to-day affairs - and I also notice growing more lazy about my written english, as I use it usually only on forums frequented by people who seem to be as lazy as I.
So just a few quick points from me, and then y'all can get back to the important topics.
...oh yes, and I have bachelor and masters degrees, but not in English. I did have to learn Assembly language for my bachelor degree, and C++ and Java coding for my master degree. Let me tell you, there's nothing sexier than saying "zero and add packed" in mixed company. But only fellow programmers would be in on the joke if I said ZAP instead. Seems elitist to me.
haha.
My personal favourite: there in place of they're... Although, I do have a few favourites.
My short form for picking the proper choice from their, there, and they're: "They're supposed to put their boots over there."
The people I know all write quite well, if not with a flourish, and even though their spoken words sound nothing like their writing, which is very quiet, I can see their writing much better. It's so confusing. They never, ever use the word egregious though.
My writing skills have plummeted in the last 10 years without a lot of extra effort though. Maybe it is egregious? I think egregious is something bad as I keep hearing highly paid professionals using it all the time now. I haven't looked up what it means yet though.
There we go ... mocked for using a word. No wonder we are all afraid to be adventurous with our writing.
My pet peeve is "spell checker".
Only a witch verifying that her incantations are correct uses a spell checker. We use a "spelling checker". I curse the early programmer who unwittingly enshrined "spell checker" in our modern vocabulary.
Way back in the '70s I learned about "y'all" by reading the novel M.A.S.H. in the english version, not the german translation. And as I thought of it being a great addition to my vocabulary, I started to use it sometime when talking. I guess if I had used it at school my Britain trained english teacher might have not approved it. She told me "English, not american please" often enough during lessons...
Evribadi sud start löörning Finnis, bekoose it is ritten eksaktli laik it is spoken
When I wrote a c++ spell checker for a program of mine, I had an animation run during the checking, with an 8 frame animation of a wizard throwing spells. I think the name was justified for that program, even if you are not a fan of the term.
I have never liked the way they teach grammar for any language at school (Four languages in my case), but also in my case being an avid reader taught me the rules the "natural" way. Started reading books in english when I was 14 because I had read all the interesting ones at the local library already (2 books per night), and some 2-3 years later I started realizing how mediocre the skills of our english teacher were... He didn't like me a lot when I started correcting him
I do admire non-English speakers who learn the language ... most English people, myself included, are hopeless with other languages because, well, we are spoiled because people everywhere tend to learn English as a second language. However, I do pity you trying to get to grips with the oddities of English. I've seen the word through spelled "thru" and it tends to annoy me but, in truth, why not simplify it? Whoever came up with the idea of using "ough" to make an "oo" sound? Especially when it also makes an "uff" sound (rough), an "ow" sound (bough) and an "off" sound (cough). And let's not get started on English place names like Leicester (pronounced Lester) or Worcester (pronounced wooster or wuster).
A moose once bit my sister... No, realli! She was karving her initials on the moose with the sharpened end of an interspace toothbrush given her by Svenge.