what happened to pwtoon?
Xade
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I want to return to Daz studio just for pwtoon and I don't find it. what the heck happened?
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It's no longer available in the Daz store. If you purchased it at any time, it should still be in your product library though.
*sigh* Looks like another one bit the dust, along with pwEffect. Search for pwToon in the forums and you will find several recent discussions about it disappearing, but no real answers. Doesn't look like there were major problems, there have been a lot of renders lately that used it, so it can't be a compatibility issue.
I think it just got vaulted for whatever reason. I love using pwtoon, so I'm glad I have it. It's a shame it won't be available for sale. I still find it useful at times.
i searched in the install manager and didn't find it I have the bundle. I even did a PW search, ahhh, found it in my product library, ok, cool. Thanks for the help!
If you bought the bundle a while ago while pwToon was still available, it should still be a separate item in your Product Library, even if it doesn't show in the bundle itself anymore. That's what I see...
ETA: OK. Should have read that last one more closely...
I'd forgotten about the bundle. I bought all the items separately during a sale when the individual items were dirt cheap. I don't remember if pwtoon was originally in the bundle or not.
I thought I had it, then when I looked for it, couldn't find it. Yesterday, I found it, in a folder of products I needed to 'Learn how to use'. So I lucked out. I did buy the bundle back in 2018.
The bundle page is misleading since the last promo (and part of the main promo) is for PWToon which isn't included.
pwtoon should be included, the smiley face proves it. At one time it was in the store, but if you search for pwtoon all you get is linerender9000, which I do own but I don't like it, there's too much to do in order to have a good result, including compositing the image with photoshop. Yes, it's just duplicating the layer over but getting to that point is something else. But it is strange that PWToon is awol, which prompted me to create this post. Though it's possible that I will do that in the future, id rather stick to pwtoon for now.
Well it could be that they have removed PWToon for some reason (does it work in the latest DS version?), and then forgot to update the promos.
It works, once I installed it from the install manager, which I accidentally had filtered the plugins out, I was able to use it flawlessly
My finished test render to make sure I still had it. I could still fiddle with it but I have a couple of pages to do of Growlution before I can start figuring out how to get my comic characters into Daz.
Thanks, looks good. Used it myself a bit some years ago, maybe it's time to dust it off and play with it (and 3DL) again. Wonder why they've removed it since it still works.
I don't know, I'll see about contacting Daz and asking. It's an awesome NPR (Non-Photorealistic Render) engine and even beats blender hands down. I have made a simple one but it doesn't support shadows. Like PWtoon, it doesn't like normals, bump or displacement maps. here's a quick little render of mine within Blender. See the difference? And that's after touch up. I can't wait to see Zeep within Daz with pwtoon. it's going to be so awesome!
I think yours looks pretty good. Just tried to install pwToon and it does seem to work fine yes (Cookie render). I also tried ToonyCam Pro which I had problems with in DS a few years ago (product page says DS 4.9), so didn't expect it to work in DS 4.15, but it actually does, at least with the settings I tried. I do get an error message when rendering but it doesn't seem to cause any problems, Hitomi looks OK AFAICS. Is Zeep a 3D model you have made, or is it hand drawn? Looks like it's slowly starting to evolve into a catlike creature. :)
I made the 3d model of Zeep myself but the webcomic has been hand drawn with the model a reference until the last page. My time has become shorter and shorter with all the stuff I have to do and things that I am doing that I went full 3d. I still touch up and draw the textures in illustrator and photoshop but as I said, time is short so it's easier to just pose and morph 3d characters
There is this one for Iray:
https://www.daz3d.com/oso-toon-shader-for-iray
There are a few:
Visual Style Shaders,
Manga Style Shaders,
Sketchy - Toon Edge and Art Style Shaders for Iray,
Oso Toon Shader for Iray
Thanks, guys. I will check these out.
A couple more:
Graphic Art Cameras
Graphic Novel Shaders and Lights
Those are lovely NPR shaders. I'll favorite them and wait for a sale. Hopefully I'll have the cash for them. Looks like PWtoon paved the way for non photorealistic rendering shaders
Shows you how long it's been since I used them. The link to the script might be lost, but the videos linked in the same thread (AoA Graphic Art Cameras) are still active, and clearly show what to do. I tried both of them and can confirm that it does work, if you don't want to wait. In the videos the parameters (time) aren't the same as the ones in the current version (st3[1]), but they are in the same location in the layout. Just use the u and v parameters as indicated. Some of the presets might need a little tweaking to get the density you want, but that is not really a problem.
(Note: using DS 4.12) Here are a couple of examples. Halftone Cam - CMYK Coarse and Engrave Cam - Blockprint 1
They phased out PWtoon?
It still worked the last time I tried it. Are you having trouble using it? Or just talking about it not being sold in the store?
My concern is that while it still works now, if they stop selling it they'll stop supporting it in future D|S updates. Nothing currently for sale even comes close, so there is no replacement.
I'm hoping Daz 5.0 will come with a native toon shader. Something like is available in Poser.