Venting on 8.1 Tribulations...

I'm really unhappy with the new 8.1 models.  I bought one a while back and was very frustrated when my old 3rd party genitals wouldnt mesh the skintones in.  And I honestly didn't see any really big difference in the 8.1 and the 8.  I just got another one and apparently all the old expressions for 8.0 characters don't work with it.  If you are going to make it that uncompatable, call it 9.  I guess the issue is, there isnt enough new features.  It just seems like an excuse to roll out a bunch of new character models and make you buy all the same old stuff all over again.  I guess I'm mad at myself really, because I fell for it not once, but twice.    

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  • hhglickhhglick Posts: 52

    I appreciate the link, but it's absolutely ridiculous that anyone should have to do that to get the old expressions to work.  

  • hhglickhhglick Posts: 52

    And now, i just loaded in the new Evonne and apparently her MAT doesnt include texture for the 8.0 genitals.  What a rip off.  

  • Gator_2236745Gator_2236745 Posts: 1,312

    Too late to get a refund?

  • hhglickhhglick Posts: 52

    I bought it a few hours ago.  I just sent in a request for one. 

  • PixelSploitingPixelSploiting Posts: 898
    edited June 2021

     Making any geografts mesh with the skintone requires a fairly simple trick. Save the character body surface as a shader preset, then apply it to the bodygraft and then copy the surfaces manually if  needed ( for an example, if your saved surface was for the torso and the graft was for the limb). The shader preset will force the exact surface settings used by the PA even if they were different than default Iray skin shaders.

     

     I'm more interested in knowing if Evonne G8.1F uses Genesis 8 or Genesis 8.1 UV templates. I like the look, but I don't want characters incompatible with older tattoo and scar overlays.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,718

    hhglick said:

    And now, i just loaded in the new Evonne and apparently her MAT doesnt include texture for the 8.0 genitals.  What a rip off.  

    Whether or not a character's material work on the Daz Anatomical Elements has nothing to do with whether it's for 8 or 8.1. Third-party add-ons may rely on the surface names to work, which may cause issues if they are script-based but should be simple for the authors to fix.

  • hhglick said:

    I'm really unhappy with the new 8.1 models.  I bought one a while back and was very frustrated when my old 3rd party genitals wouldnt mesh the skintones in.  And I honestly didn't see any really big difference in the 8.1 and the 8.  I just got another one and apparently all the old expressions for 8.0 characters don't work with it.  If you are going to make it that uncompatable, call it 9.  I guess the issue is, there isnt enough new features.  It just seems like an excuse to roll out a bunch of new character models and make you buy all the same old stuff all over again.  I guess I'm mad at myself really, because I fell for it not once, but twice.    

    If anyone is curious about 3rd party bits, and it was made by Meipe (spelling?)..she has actually made a fix for 8.1 males. Not sure about females. Just search the forums for her and she has provided a fix in the links. Not sure I can hotlink here without getting wrists slapped. 

     

  • cridgitcridgit Posts: 1,757
    edited May 2022

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,718

    cridgit said:

    I have a different very annoying problem with this figure - the torso texture doesn't load onto Genesis 8 Female. It only works if you load the character DUF directly into the scene. Filed ticket #380147.

    That is the expected behaviour - the names of the surfaces involved have changed, so presets for 8.1 will not have settings for the old 8 names. If it uses the new 8.1 UVs there is nothing to be done, other than baking to a new uve, but if it still uses the old UVs you could apply the sahder used to the body/head surface on Genesis 8 then copy/paste the settings from an application of the character to 8.1

    If the anatomical elements are one of your purchase decisions just remember to check the store page before you buy: if not listed as is the case for this character, it surely won't include those textures. However there are third party products at the other Rendo that create the texture from the torso. Can't link here.

  • PixelSploitingPixelSploiting Posts: 898
    edited June 2021

    The characters uses the old G8 UVs so you can copy the textures manually.

     

    TBH, looking at this product it looks like it's sold as G8.1 on a completely arbitrary basis. It's G8 with PBR skin. It even loads with G8 eyelashes instead of G8.1 ones.

     

    But of course it makes converting it to G8 trivial.

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  • cridgitcridgit Posts: 1,757
    edited May 2022

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