Duplicate formulas found... old fix doesn't seem to work
MegaGothmog
Posts: 7
I'm getting issues when loading characters. Namely the error Dupicale Formulas Found.
the log .txt shows this (a ton more, but this is related to the errror)
2021-06-20 08:57:47.501 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking yOrigin & FHM_LY_Briallen in E:/Daz Content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/Lyoness/LY_Briallen/FHM_LY_Briallen.dsf.
2021-06-20 08:57:47.501 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis8Female
2021-06-20 08:57:47.501 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: rEar:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Genesis8Female.dsf#rEar?center_point/y
2021-06-20 08:57:47.502 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Lyoness/LY_Briallen/FHM_LY_Briallen.dsf#FHM_LY_XXX?value
2021-06-20 08:57:47.531 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking zOrigin & FHM_LY_Briallen in E:/Daz Content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/Lyoness/LY_Briallen/FHM_LY_Briallen.dsf.
2021-06-20 08:57:47.531 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis8Female
2021-06-20 08:57:47.531 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: rEar:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Genesis8Female.dsf#rEar?center_point/z
2021-06-20 08:57:47.531 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Lyoness/LY_Briallen/FHM_LY_Briallen.dsf#FHM_LY_XXX?value
2021-06-20 08:57:47.559 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5995): Duplicate formula found linking xEnd & FHM_LY_Briallen in E:/Daz Content/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/Lyoness/LY_Briallen/FHM_LY_Briallen.dsf.
2021-06-20 08:57:47.560 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5996): owner: Genesis8Female
2021-06-20 08:57:47.560 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5997): output: rEar:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Genesis8Female.dsf#rEar?end_point/x
2021-06-20 08:57:47.560 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5998): input: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Lyoness/LY_Briallen/FHM_LY_Briallen.dsf#FHM_LY_XXX?value
it shows this around 40 times.
i tried the solution found here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/22220/duplicate-formulas-error-solved-thank-you-bejaymac ;
but it did not seem to work. As it is an old solution, my guess is that it no longer works for newer versions of Daz. That, or i did it wrong, but i followed each step and still i get the same error
Does anyone know how to fix this?
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Briallen was updated - redownload from your acount and reinstall using your usual tool.
Hmm.. this did not work.
i got it fixed eventually by just deleating these files, since all the dials were on 0 anyway, so the model stayed the same.
Wierd that i got an error for a file i wasn't even using, but oh well.
It doesn't matter whether the morph is used, Dsd has to read everything in to know which sliders to show and what their ramifications will be if they are used. Removing briallen makes it wholly unavailable, since there is a fix you may as well install it for when you want it having paid for the product.
My fix is to delete one of the duplicates and reload the item to see if it works. If not I search the folder for all of the related content then deleted all of it and re-install.
So far its worked for me with no issues other than investing the time to do so.
The problem with the Duplicate Formulas are that they are insidious. Clicking the okay button makes it seem like you can proceed, but that isn't always true.
The affected dials can have unpredictable (and unwanted) results. The error will come up every time you load the scene file or any G8 models / characters. It also adds time to the load process, the amount of time depends on your system, the number of duplicate formulas involved, and the number of other G8 products you have installed.
The best way to proceed is to only install the characters / morphs that you need to use for a specific project. Then uninstall those characters when you finish the project. This will minimize the chances of the duplicate formula errors (as well as the missing target errors). It will also allow you to use the characters / morphs with the duplicate formula errors (provided you aren't trying to also use the product the conflicts).
Glad I'm not the only one who's had to deal with this. I learned to just ignore it. Don't think I ever had a problem.
Here's the thing about ignoring it... If you use one of the dials that is involved in the duplicate formula error, the dial will apply BOTH morphs. This can lead to some pretty ugly results. That's why I said they were insidious errors... It can seem like there is no impact, until your model explodes.
It's really bad if you work on a project without the duplicate formula errors, then install something that causing the error, then open the project... If you used the offending dials, the additional morph will be applied to the previous project.
None of my friends have Briallen so I haven't had access to the files to find out what went wrong, but I have seen her in several log files, and always giving out the same errors.
Most duplicate formula errors you will get are similar to what you see with Rin, two products that have correctives for the same asset in the figure, problem is they both have the same internal ID, which means their ERC links are identical, and that's what causes the error.
In this case however the issue is with the animated joint centers, wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Alexandra 8's asset ID was being used for the rigging adjustments, instead of Briallen's.
I swear, I FIXED this issue.
Updates went out ages ago. There is no reason why this error should be occurring in 2021.
If you are still having this issue, go to your Product Library and download it again.