I Blame YOU, Rarestone! Gen 8.1 Tantrum.
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I so wanted to never touch anything Gen 8.1. I tried tinkering with the free figure when it was released. I somehow found a way to access the FACS, and got crashes for my trouble. I was absolutely un-sold on the prospect. Then that rat Rarestone released Elder Minto, and I had to have that amazing figure in my library. But now I've gotta try to get a handle on some basic 8.1 stuff again. As usual, I'm going to maintain my blood pressure as best I can, and hope that the kind and helpful forum members will help me out with a couple of questions.
1. There is a Mouth Close slider that doesn't move at all. What's the deal here, and is there a way to close the 8.1 mouth without using the crash-inducing FACS?
2. Where do I find the crash-inducing FACS? I'm really hoping it got fixed between release date and now, but I have not been able to figure out where the tools are lurking. I've read that there's a "Developer Kit" that contains what I'm looking for...somewhere.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Curse you, Rarestone, and your beautiful work.
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1. The crashes are caused by IK on FACS. Disable it by using ctrl-K (I think), but the way you're supposed to use it, IK enabled or not, is to click on an arrow FIRST with the Translation tool, release, then click and drag it to move. If you just click and drag an arrow and IK is still enabled, it will crash Studio. If I remember correctly, the Mouth Close dial *only* closes the mouth, it has no effect if it is already closed or affected by other expressions. 8.1 has better control for various features, but they're handled differently than before.
2. FACS is located in People -> Genesis 8 Female - Developer Kit.
Excellent help! I do thank you.
I hadn't known about disabling IK, so that seems to have solved that problem.
A lot of my characters begin with a default expression that has their mouths slightly open, so it's quite an annoyance to not have an easy way to close the mouth from the jump. I was able to do it with some FACS manipulation, but what a benefit it would have been to have an easy slider, as with previous Genesis generations.
I think I couldn't find the FACS controls because I'm so reliant on Smart Content. Doesn't seem to be a path you can follow there to get to the controls. Once I realized it was hiding in the Content Library, all was right with the world in that regard.
Once again, thanks, SnowSultan!
No problem, glad I could help a little. :)
Also remember if you want to save expressions with 8.1, select the FACS rig itself and then just save a pose. It's actually quite a bit easier than turning on or off the parameters you need like you had to with G8.
I think Open Mouth is a G8 expression control, not a G 8.1 one. Many of these along with with most G8 expressions do not work on G 8.1. There is an unoffical workaround to this issue which is documented in this thread:
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/477386/how-to-get-genesis-8-expressions-working-on-genesis-8-1
at the end of this seminar, Jay discusses how to work with FACS expressions. It was very exciting to get a better grip on these new expressions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60EDvvSnSuM
I really enjoy Jay's seminars, so I hope you'll enjoy it too.
Damn, actually I thought that Elder Minto was just a pose collection. Well, missed a nice character. Wishlisted now.
Thank yoooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuu. These crashes have been driving me up the wall. You have officially saved my sanity.
I really didn't know that either. I gave up on FACS months ago because of all the crashing and try to just use 8.1 characters, if at all possible, in Blender, but I'll give it a try again in Daz if this is the way to do it.