Recreating a character - any ideas on used presets, character or hair based on photo?

Hello everyone,

 

I have been trying to recreate the following two photos and have no idea how to address the young teen-like look. The body/head morph in these two pictures should be the same and is created by the same deviantart artist.

I have figured out the blonde hair () but been struggeling to find the brown bun hair as well as the facial creation. Tried using an Ellie, Osuine and Dior morph for Genesis 8 Female including Age Control and  jaw/chin adjustments but they still look much older than the original and also neither have the appropriate skin.

Have any of you any ideas and may help? Thanks in advance!

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,780

    I'd like to know as well, nice face morph. If it's on DA, just ask the artist what they used.

  • Perhaps https://www.daz3d.com/ciel-for-genesis-8-female with Age Control or some modification?

  • lwaveslwaves Posts: 238

    The bun hair on the left is Kavindra Hair.

    For the skin, have you asked the original artist what they used? Might be worth a shot.

    For a younger look, what about Growing Up? It's hard to say without seeing the body but that could work for the face and bodies are easy to recreate closely. Or again, you could ask the original artist.

  • chris-2599934chris-2599934 Posts: 1,839

    Funny looking girl. From what we can see, her breasts appear to be bigger than her head. Oh well, that's deviantart for you.

    I'm guessing that shape is achieved by mixing and matching several morphs - a teen morph for the head, a very-much-not-teen morph for the body. Probably some more dials spun on top of that. Personally, when I want a young looking character, I dial in a little Teen Josie or some other teen character in my runtime.

    What was the blonde hair?

  • tso7989tso7989 Posts: 0


    FSMCDesigns said:

    I'd like to know as well, nice face morph. If it's on DA, just ask the artist what they used.

    So far, unfortunately the artist hasnt replied to my request .. 

     

    I tried age control but it didn't worked so far. Their faces are too narrow and slim.

  • tso7989tso7989 Posts: 0

    lwaves said:

    The bun hair on the left is Kavindra Hair.

    For the skin, have you asked the original artist what they used? Might be worth a shot.

    For a younger look, what about Growing Up? It's hard to say without seeing the body but that could work for the face and bodies are easy to recreate closely. Or again, you could ask the original artist.

    Thanks, that will help!

    just need to figure out what facial morphs they are using

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,211
    I think those "girls" use one of those Thorne characters, for the head, in the mix; like Teen Josie 8, Teen Kaylee 8, Karyssa 8, Rhyne 8, Daisy 8, August 8.1, etc.
  • tso7989tso7989 Posts: 0

    chris-2599934 said:

    Funny looking girl. From what we can see, her breasts appear to be bigger than her head. Oh well, that's deviantart for you.

    I'm guessing that shape is achieved by mixing and matching several morphs - a teen morph for the head, a very-much-not-teen morph for the body. Probably some more dials spun on top of that. Personally, when I want a young looking character, I dial in a little Teen Josie or some other teen character in my runtime.

    What was the blonde hair?

    It's this one: 2021-09 Hair for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Females | Daz 3D

    Yeah, the body does not match the face so it doesn't matter.

     

    The artist replied that he uses a mix of daz and photoshop to achieve the image but does not answer clearly on what pre-asset he uses (especially the character which he is using one). So I guess I have to play with the dials and find out myself ...

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,040

    There are several hundreds, possibly thousands, of morph dials that can be used if you own all the PA morph packs in addition to the Daz ones. The lips can be achieved with the bee bite morph from one of  EmmaandJordi’s packs. If the artist owns as many morphs as I do, it could be literally anything. 

  • tso7989tso7989 Posts: 0

    Yeah, I agree on either using ZBrush or a multitude of presets. Like I said: prob have to figure it out on my own.

    What still intrigues me is the used pre-character or at least the skin, the eye brows are noticeable flatter than most female base skin and and here face has not any make up on.

    Marks above here breasts are also significant. Does anybody has an idea on her skin or used character?

  • lwaveslwaves Posts: 238

    Can you give me the name of the DA artist? Or a link to their gallery if it's safe for here.

    If they've used the skin for two characters, they may have used it on others and I might be able to pick out some more detals. The resolution and lighting in the images here don't make that easy. I'm kind of curious myself. :-)

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,967

    chris-2599934 said:

    Funny looking girl. From what we can see, her breasts appear to be bigger than her head. Oh well, that's deviantart for you.

    Fun fact: there seem to be quite a few real life asian (mostly japanese...) cosplay-eresses for which the above stated is a fact. So don't blame deviantart for something that is grounded in human physique devil

  • tso7989tso7989 Posts: 0

    lwaves said:

    Can you give me the name of the DA artist? Or a link to their gallery if it's safe for here.

    If they've used the skin for two characters, they may have used it on others and I might be able to pick out some more detals. The resolution and lighting in the images here don't make that easy. I'm kind of curious myself. :-)

    Yeah, It's Aero3DX. I am hesitant to post his direct deviantart profile as most of his pictures are NSFW and prob only for 18+. Just google him and you'll find it!

    @maikdecker Actually I think that the face especially on the first picture has some asian touch on it, cannot really pinpoint why but the eyes seems a little.

  • lwaveslwaves Posts: 238
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    tso7989 said:

    lwaves said:

    Can you give me the name of the DA artist? Or a link to their gallery if it's safe for here.

    If they've used the skin for two characters, they may have used it on others and I might be able to pick out some more detals. The resolution and lighting in the images here don't make that easy. I'm kind of curious myself. :-)

    Yeah, It's Aero3DX. I am hesitant to post his direct deviantart profile as most of his pictures are NSFW and prob only for 18+. Just google him and you'll find it!

    @maikdecker Actually I think that the face especially on the first picture has some asian touch on it, cannot really pinpoint why but the eyes seems a little.

    Cheers, I'll have a look tomorrow as it's really late here. Yeah, definitely don't post if it's NSFW, that's why I said only if it's safe. I know many DA galleries aren't safe when Daz related.  :-)

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  • margravemargrave Posts: 1,822

    I think the one on the right is Cherubit's "Rose HD" with a helluvalotta SSS.

  • tso7989tso7989 Posts: 0

    margrave said:

    I think the one on the right is Cherubit's "Rose HD" with a helluvalotta SSS.

    Maybe, she looks similiar but her skin and eyes are way different. And I assume that the eyebrow is just texture.

  • lwaveslwaves Posts: 238

    tso7989 said:

    margrave said:

    I think the one on the right is Cherubit's "Rose HD" with a helluvalotta SSS.

    Maybe, she looks similiar but her skin and eyes are way different. And I assume that the eyebrow is just texture.

    I agree there are similarities but not enough for me to say it's the same character. I found a couple of others on Rendo that are close and could work (with morphing) but aren't exact. If the rest of this goes nowhere I'll post the linnks for you to check out.

    I don't know if you did this yet but I've asked Aero3DX what the texture and character is. Just got to wait for a response now, if there is one. The texture could be problematic as the images have a LOT of post work on them, making the texture vague. However, having seen more images of the April character, I'm convinced they exist in one of the stores. When I have a bit of time I'm going to go through the stores as I'm interested in her face myself. :-)

  • tso7989tso7989 Posts: 0

    lwaves said:

    tso7989 said:

    margrave said:

    I think the one on the right is Cherubit's "Rose HD" with a helluvalotta SSS.

    Maybe, she looks similiar but her skin and eyes are way different. And I assume that the eyebrow is just texture.

    I agree there are similarities but not enough for me to say it's the same character. I found a couple of others on Rendo that are close and could work (with morphing) but aren't exact. If the rest of this goes nowhere I'll post the linnks for you to check out.

    I don't know if you did this yet but I've asked Aero3DX what the texture and character is. Just got to wait for a response now, if there is one. The texture could be problematic as the images have a LOT of post work on them, making the texture vague. However, having seen more images of the April character, I'm convinced they exist in one of the stores. When I have a bit of time I'm going to go through the stores as I'm interested in her face myself. :-)

    If you could do that, that would be great. Like i said, I texted him multiple times asking him specifically about the used skin / character. Aside from telling me that he uses one he decided to stay very vague and neither telling me the name nor providing me with the link.

    I agree that April (which is the name of his girl) is derived from a base character mixed with a multitude of other morphs as his other character all have the same childish/ young narrow-jaw face. Hope you have more than me and I would really appreciate if you have any further information or hints! Thanks!

  • tso7989tso7989 Posts: 0

    I attached some more picture examples of the character. Another significant hint is the smile (pretty noticeable deforming in cheek and eyes) which may be coming directly from the character. Any ideas?

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  • lwaveslwaves Posts: 238

    I agree there are similarities but not enough for me to say it's the same character. I found a couple of others on Rendo that are close and could work (with morphing) but aren't exact. If the rest of this goes nowhere I'll post the linnks for you to check out.

    I don't know if you did this yet but I've asked Aero3DX what the texture and character is. Just got to wait for a response now, if there is one. The texture could be problematic as the images have a LOT of post work on them, making the texture vague. However, having seen more images of the April character, I'm convinced they exist in one of the stores. When I have a bit of time I'm going to go through the stores as I'm interested in her face myself. :-)

    If you could do that, that would be great. Like i said, I texted him multiple times asking him specifically about the used skin / character. Aside from telling me that he uses one he decided to stay very vague and neither telling me the name nor providing me with the link.

    I agree that April (which is the name of his girl) is derived from a base character mixed with a multitude of other morphs as his other character all have the same childish/ young narrow-jaw face. Hope you have more than me and I would really appreciate if you have any further information or hints! Thanks!

    It's been long enough since I left them a message and I've got nothing back. I'm afraid you're on your own. Two things to try, find a character that's close and use them as a base. Claire for Genesis 8 Female is the closest I've found and the texture seems good enough too.
    Or, if you have the option and the fix package, you could run the better images through Face Transfer. With the right image you can get some good results for a starting point.

    I've been after that smile for awhile and keep seeing various artists use it (or something similar), which makes me think it's not custom but no luck on that so far either. There's a Rarestone smile that's close but not close enough.

  • margravemargrave Posts: 1,822

    tso7989 said:

    I attached some more picture examples of the character. Another significant hint is the smile (pretty noticeable deforming in cheek and eyes) which may be coming directly from the character. Any ideas?

    I think the rightmost one is Rarestone's "Fredda". 

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