marvelous designer alternatives

nick.townsend21_4517cbb5da

[Goodness] is marvelous designer expensive !

Does anyone know any cheaper alternatives ?

thanks.

Richard Haseltine

Blender has some kind of cloth system.

nick.townsend21_4517cbb5da

I'll take a look in Blender but I do find it hard work, MD looked a bit easier, from what I saw. 

Mattymanx

I too have found Blender a bit overwelming but you have to keep in mind that it is NOT geared towards one or two specific areas of 3D but a very large range of 3D and more.  I tried it first when I wanted to do 3D modeling but found myself far more comfortable with Silo since it was focused on 3D modeling and was streamlined to do so.  And MD is focused on clothing creation and streamlined for such, hence why it looks easier to use.  If you do use Blender, you just need to find some decent vids or tutorials that give you the basic run down of the UI and also on clothing creation.  Look up plugins for blender that can aid in the creation of clothing to see if there is anything that can help make it easier or intuative.

WendyLuvsCatz

if you are using Dforce you can honestly box model clothes in just about anything including Wings3D and drape it, export an obj then reimport that and use the transfer utility

lilweep

doing the free trials over and over.

marvelous designer > clo 3d > marvelous designer > clo 3d

usually a big update will reset the free trial...

TheMysteryIsThePoint

God knows I love Blender, but let no one delude themselves into thinking that Blender's cloth system is in any way comparable to Marvelous Designer. It's not. Marvelous designer is much, much more robust and it is incredibly tolerant. Also, it's default settings are reasonable while Blender's are sometimes off by two orders of magnitude from the values that work and can take hours of fiddling.

Much like Motionbuilder, there's simply no substitute.

 

nicstt

I'm a huge fan of Blender. I use it for everything with the exception of MD.

... I bit the bullet and bought, I will upgrade again once more before it goes subscription only.

Once it goes sub only they can kiss good bye to my cash.

Gordig

TheMysteryIsThePoint said:

Much like Motionbuilder, there's simply no substitute.

I had a 3-year educational license for Mobu, and I was very sad when I recently discovered that it had expired.

TheMysteryIsThePoint

Gordig said:

TheMysteryIsThePoint said:

Much like Motionbuilder, there's simply no substitute.

I had a 3-year educational license for Mobu, and I was very sad when I recently discovered that it had expired.

Yeah, me too, so I feel you on that one. At least Maya can be gotten for much cheaper. And I understand that SideFX will have their character tools act together, eventually; Houdini can be gotten cheaply as well. I suspect that in Houdini, I'll be able to do everything I did in MoBu and more.

Catherine3678ab

There are some interesting video tutorials on YouTube for 'sewing' in Blender.

nonesuch00

Gordig said:

TheMysteryIsThePoint said:

Much like Motionbuilder, there's simply no substitute.

I had a 3-year educational license for Mobu, and I was very sad when I recently discovered that it had expired.

Are Maya & MotionBuilder animation capabilities equivalent? A MotionBuild license actually costs $200 more a year.

Richard Haseltine

nonesuch00 said:

Gordig said:

TheMysteryIsThePoint said:

Much like Motionbuilder, there's simply no substitute.

I had a 3-year educational license for Mobu, and I was very sad when I recently discovered that it had expired.

Are Maya & MotionBuilder animation capabilities equivalent? A MotionBuild license actually costs $200 more a year.

I think they were offered as examples of unique applications that have no real competition, not as things that did the same job.

wolf359

MOBU is the industry standard tool for parsing and retargeting motion capture Data from a variety of hardware for both bipeds & quadripeds
with nearly endless ability to be adapted to any proprietary capture hardware via a highly adaptable/acessable API.

Most CG film companies like WETA Digital are using proprietary capture systems
for body & face with MOBU.

Maya is a full 3DCC with  a complete modeling, VFX,animation&rendering
pipeline.

TheMysteryIsThePoint

nonesuch00 said:

Gordig said:

TheMysteryIsThePoint said:

Much like Motionbuilder, there's simply no substitute.

I had a 3-year educational license for Mobu, and I was very sad when I recently discovered that it had expired.

Are Maya & MotionBuilder animation capabilities equivalent? A MotionBuild license actually costs $200 more a year.

Yes, and no. MoBu is the best tool in existence if you work with mocap that you captured yourself. There are still filters that are only available in MoBu. I never timed it, but MoBu baked much faster and was generally more stable. But nowadays Maya can do almost everything that MoBu can, and it's a much better environment for animation.

That said, they both use the same HIK system, and I can do everything I need to do in Maya.

Also, if you qualify for the Indie program, full blown Maya can be gotten for less than $300 per year. As far as I know, there is no Indie option for MoBu, and literally if it weren't for James Cameron bribing them so he could make Avatar 2, Autodesk would have discontinued MoBu already.

I know they guy that wrote PeelSolv, and it's very good. I'd buy that if you work with mocap and need a solver, instead of MoBu because he's actually responsive to his users.

nick.townsend21_4517cbb5da

thanks for the advice guys

nick.townsend21_4517cbb5da

lilweep said:

doing the free trials over and over.

marvelous designer > clo 3d > marvelous designer > clo 3d

usually a big update will reset the free trial...

You can do that ?

I'll give it a try :0)