Help please Messed up something on G8F

MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,983
edited August 2021 in Daz Studio Discussion

Everytime I load G8F figure, I get an error message for a missing file. Weird thing is, that this tab is blank with only an ok button and a help button. The help button gives a "no go" cursor symbol only.
I've tried to reinstall the G8F figure but, the result remains the same. I've also removed the *dsf data files, I've been working on to a back up partition, but the blank error message is still coming.
So, I am pretty clueless, what has gone wrong and how to fix it. Has anybody an idea?

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,957

    Have you read the log file to see what was going on there? Could you pls post a screenshot in here?

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,049

    In case you need it the log file is in Help>Troubleshooting>View Log File

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,957

    Really weird to me. I've never seen such a blank 'missing files' before. I'm afraid messages in log file are still needed as Frank mentioned, since there's no clue from this blank dialogue...

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,049

    Look towards the bottom of the log and it should have some warnings and then past them here so we can figure out where the problem could be.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,983

    After houres of going through my log file, I was able to isolate the problem, but
    it doesn't get any better:
    Why all of a sudden is the default Genesis 8 Female figure asking for a scene file, that I created?
    I get a blank error message, once this scene file is deleted, it is not showing up, when this scene file is availeble. It may even be an empty scene with that scene file name.
    So how to fix that?

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,049

    Is it possible that at some point you accidently saved over the original?

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,983

    frank0314 said:

    Is it possible that at some point you accidently saved over the original?

    Yup, that's what I thought, but after I reinstalled the original G8Female files, but the problem still persists.  

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,049
    edited August 2021

    Have you looked at the log file to see if that will tell you what file is missing?

    Help>Troubleshooting>View Log File

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,957

    Same guess as Frank did. It's really strange. How could 'Genesis 8 Basic Female.duf' file read a scene file you ever made... furthermore you've already re-installed G8 essential package...

    The scripts in 'Genesis 8 Basic Female.duf' is pretty straigh-forward, you may use notepad or a text editor to open it and take a look if there's anything strange... and 'Genesis8Female.dsf' file as well..

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,983
    edited August 2021

    windreaver0118 said:

    [...]

    The scripts in 'Genesis 8 Basic Female.duf' is pretty straigh-forward, you may use notepad or a text editor to open it and take a look if there's anything strange... and 'Genesis8Female.dsf' file as well..

    Nope, nothing in those files. I don't get it.

    there is nothing needed in my scene file. I just created an empty editor file and named like the scene file and it worked. Without that scen file, I get a blank error message, everytime I load a G8F figure.

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Have a look in ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female\Morphs\[the name you use in DS]\

    If you have saved something as an asset, the morphs the procedure created, may be calling those missing assets.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,983

    PerttiA said:

    Have a look in ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female\Morphs\[the name you use in DS]\

    If you have saved something as an asset, the morphs the procedure created, may be calling those missing assets.

    Tried that and removed all data files Ive been working on shortly before that problem showed up temporary to a place, where DS can't find them. Still no change.
    As I said, I don't get it, unless there is a file somwhere, I don't know about.
    It is not the "Genesis 8 Female.duf" file
    it is not the "Genesis 8 Female.dsf" file either
    None of the *.dsf  files I've been working on today asks for a scene file.
    Something essential must have been overwritten.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    The log file would be the only place with any clues

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,049
    edited August 2021

    Did you happen to try reinstalling all of these files as well when you did Genesis 8? You said yoou didn't have any Warnings in the log file, right? With not knowing what the error is because it's blank and not seeing the log we have to do guess work here. 

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  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,983
    edited August 2021

    Loading G8Female when scene file is not available

    Lines from the Log file:
    [2021-08-29 23:06:28.703 Loaded file: Genesis 8 Basic Female.duf
    2021-08-29 23:06:29.953 Could not resolve : "/Scenes/!!!_ROXY Lindholm Teen.duf"
    2021-08-29 23:06:30.351 Loaded image G8FBaseLegsMapD_1003.jpg]

    Loading G8Female when scene file is available
    Lines from the Log file:
    [2021-08-29 23:14:17.357 File loaded in 0 min 28.5 sec.
    2021-08-29 23:14:17.358 Loaded file: Genesis 8 Basic Female.duf
    2021-08-29 23:14:19.013 Loaded image G8FBaseLegsMapD_1003.jpg]

    Reinstalled Genesis 8 Female Body Morphs, Expressions, Head Morphs PowerPose Templates and Starter Essentials.
    Problem still persists.

    EDIT:
    Something else is weird about this case.
    Usually, when a dsf file is missing, you can resave the scene, and the next time you load a scene you don't get an error message anymore.
    Not in this case. I get this blank error message every time I load a G8F file.

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Who is "!!!_ROXY Lindholm Teen", is she someone you created?

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Masterstroke said:
    EDIT:
    Something else is weird about this case.
    Usually, when a dsf file is missing, you can resave the scene, and the next time you load a scene you don't get an error message anymore.
    Not in this case. I get this blank error message every time I load a G8F file.

    Yes, if a scene file is calling for an asset that's missing, saving a scene can remove the error, but in this case whatever is calling the missing asset is hidden amongst the morphs that are read during the loading of whatever G8F character - Reinstalling Genesis 8 Female Essentials does not help, as those files do not touch the characters/morphs that you have installed for G8F.

    Have you tried loading the "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load" into an empty scene, does she also complain about the missing file?
    If she doesn't, the morph that's calling the missing file must be related to eyelashes.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,983
    edited August 2021

    Yes the default Genesis 8 Female does also complain for the scene file. It just doesn't make sense.

    It might even be a bigger problem.

    I have made a complete reinstall of DS studio, that did not solve the problem of this blank error message, but also gave a new problem. Just wondering, if those two problems are connected. 
    During reinstalling the installer freezes during the content managment system install, even when installing with admin rights and virus scanner off.

    I had to trick the installer to complete the process, by skipping the cms install with the task manager.

    I have a working DS now, but without a working PostgreSQL CMS.

    To be honest, I have never understood, what this is for.

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    When you have a morph calling something it shouldn't, reinstalling the base figures and/or DS, DIM, whatever, doesn't help as the problem is with that one morphfile that doesn't get reinstalled with the base figure, DS and/or the installer. The only thing that helps, is identifying the morph and fixing or removing it.

    Did you load the "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load", it is different from the default Genesis 8 Female, as the Dev Load doesn't load the lashes or textures.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,983
    edited August 2021

    PerttiA said:

    [...]

    Did you load the "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load", it is different from the default Genesis 8 Female, as the Dev Load doesn't load the lashes or textures.

    Aaaah, where do I find this "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load" ?

    EDIT:
    Wait, found it. There is nothing in this "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load" file, that is refering to this particular scene file, and there has been nothing modified since 10-30-2017.

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    So, did you load the "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load" to an empty scene and did it complain about the missing file?

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,983

    PerttiA said:

    So, did you load the "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load" to an empty scene and did it complain about the missing file?

    Yes, it did.
    BTW also when loading G8.1F Dev load
     

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Ok, then it's down to process of elimination...

    The morphfiles that G8F reads when loading, are located in "...data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female\Morphs\", with DS closed, move the folders that you find in there somewhere DS doesn't see, leave only the "...\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female\Morphs\DAZ 3D\" as the problem is more than likely not with the morphs inside that folder.

    The "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load" should now load without complaining about missing file, does it?

    If DS wasn't complaining about the missing file, close DS and move half of the morph folders back to "...data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female\Morphs\", does DS now complain about missing file when you load the "Genesis 8 Female Dev Load"?

    Whether DS complained or not, you now know which half of the folders does contain the problematic morph file.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,983

    Yay, I think, I made it.
    6 giga byte of my dsf files to go through, until I narrowed it down.
    I just hope, there is nothing going on still rewriting my dsf-files, who knows.
    The error  has been hiding in severall of my dsf files
    in line 18, wher it is suppose to be
    "parent" : "/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Genesis8Female.dsf#Genesis8Female",
    it was
    "parent" : "/scene/ ...", instead

    so, I think, what I've been doing that caused this mess, was to rename a scene file, opening it and resaving it, despite its error warning.
    However those 6 dsf-files in my main morph data-folder appeared to have been corrupted completley randomly.

    Thank you for your help and patience
    yessmiley
     

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