Free Poser Items

FP

How useful are these freebie items if I only use Daz?  

https://www.daz3d.com/night-time-for-idl-studio

https://www.daz3d.com/essentials-sweater-for-v4

 

Byrdie

The sweater will probably work well enough though you may need to adjust the materials because they're set up for Poser not iray. The other product however would be useless in Daz because Studio and Poser have completely different lighting systems. That said, they're both free so you've nothing to lose but your time should you decide to download and play around with them.

FP

Byrdie said:

The sweater will probably work well enough though you may need to adjust the materials because they're set up for Poser not iray. The other product however would be useless in Daz because Studio and Poser have completely different lighting systems. That said, they're both free so you've nothing to lose but your time should you decide to download and play around with them.

Why offer a useless or difficult item to use? That's like my next door neighbor giving me a bicycle tire when I don't own a bike. They may have good intentions but it's ultimately pointless.

McGyver

FP said:

Byrdie said:

The sweater will probably work well enough though you may need to adjust the materials because they're set up for Poser not iray. The other product however would be useless in Daz because Studio and Poser have completely different lighting systems. That said, they're both free so you've nothing to lose but your time should you decide to download and play around with them.

Why offer a useless or difficult item to use? That's like my next door neighbor giving me a bicycle tire when I don't own a bike. They may have good intentions but it's ultimately pointless.

So you're saying that those old bicycle tires I gave cousin in-law as a wedding present are useless...? Geez, thanks...  great advice after the fact.

Now I'm rethinking this bouquet of old socks I put together for my wife's birthday... You know, there's always that one person who's gotta make you second guess your generosity... 

jjmainor

You could pull out the textures and use them for something else...they don't have to be used as part of the lighting system.

richardandtracy

FP said:

Byrdie said:

The sweater will probably work well enough though you may need to adjust the materials because they're set up for Poser not iray. The other product however would be useless in Daz because Studio and Poser have completely different lighting systems. That said, they're both free so you've nothing to lose but your time should you decide to download and play around with them.

Why offer a useless or difficult item to use? That's like my next door neighbor giving me a bicycle tire when I don't own a bike. They may have good intentions but it's ultimately pointless.

Possibly because Poser users still come to DAZ for Victoria 4 and accessories, and they are still customers.

Torquinox

jjmainor said:

You could pull out the textures and use them for something else...they don't have to be used as part of the lighting system.

That's what I do with those things. :)

Peter Wade

They are useful for some people. I still use Poser so I can use them. You can't use the IDL library files in Studio but it incudes textures for a skydome and you could use material settings to put them onto a skydome in Studio.

Going back to your original analogy, it's not like giving bicylce tyres to someone who doen't have a bicylce, its more like saying "look, I've got these bicylcle tyres, anyone who has a bicylce can take them".

Peter Wade

I had a go at using the IDL Studio textures in Daz Studio. All I did here for the lighting was to load Nighttime8A.jpg onto the Iray Environment Map, adjusted the exposure to get a night time look and added a couple of Poser props for something to render. The lighting quality isn't as good as you can get from an HDRI since it is just a jpeg but it is useable. Here is the result, not a great image but only around ten minutes work:

 

FP

Well I guess with a bit of work they are usable. Still seems a bit like filler to me though.  

We have G3, G8 and G8.1 and these freebies  FREE Textures for Heartbeat Hair | Daz 3D and SeaFolk KelpHair for V4, A4, M4 and H4 | Daz 3D

Kinda think it may be time to consider updating the free section with content slightly more up to date and useful to new daz users.

Sempie

richardandtracy said:

FP said:

Byrdie said:

The sweater will probably work well enough though you may need to adjust the materials because they're set up for Poser not iray. The other product however would be useless in Daz because Studio and Poser have completely different lighting systems. That said, they're both free so you've nothing to lose but your time should you decide to download and play around with them.

Why offer a useless or difficult item to use? That's like my next door neighbor giving me a bicycle tire when I don't own a bike. They may have good intentions but it's ultimately pointless.

Possibly because Poser users still come to DAZ for Victoria 4 and accessories, and they are still customers.

You bet. I almost exclusively buy old Poser compatible stuff. Stuff for V4, M4, Poser compatible sets and lighting sets. Don't have a big nVidia card, don't have a fancy new computer, can't use the recource hungry Genesis 8 generation. So I don't buy it.  I have a 15 year old dual quadcore Xeon workstation with 36 GB RAM and a GTX 1050ti, and no budget to upgrade it.. Good for Poser 11, not for DS 4.12 with iRay. .DAZ started out as a Poser content website, you know. Before there even was a DAZ Studio. There would not even have been a DAZ if not for Poser. Happy that Jack Tomalin, David Brinnen, Forbidden Whispers & co still make some new Poser compatible stuff. Keep it coming. Most big sales are almost exclusively DS only, I see no reason to complain too much.

And don't worry; DAZ is putting most of its old Poser content in clearance, Soon, we'll all be gone...

 

N-RArts

Can't the IDLs be used with the Filament Render Engine?

Peter Wade

Sempie said:

richardandtracy said:

FP said:

Byrdie said:

The sweater will probably work well enough though you may need to adjust the materials because they're set up for Poser not iray. The other product however would be useless in Daz because Studio and Poser have completely different lighting systems. That said, they're both free so you've nothing to lose but your time should you decide to download and play around with them.

Why offer a useless or difficult item to use? That's like my next door neighbor giving me a bicycle tire when I don't own a bike. They may have good intentions but it's ultimately pointless.

Possibly because Poser users still come to DAZ for Victoria 4 and accessories, and they are still customers.

You bet. I almost exclusively buy old Poser compatible stuff. Stuff for V4, M4, Poser compatible sets and lighting sets. Don't have a big nVidia card, don't have a fancy new computer, can't use the recource hungry Genesis 8 generation. So I don't buy it.  I have a 15 year old dual quadcore Xeon workstation with 36 GB RAM and a GTX 1050ti, and no budget to upgrade it.. Good for Poser 11, not for DS 4.12 with iRay. .DAZ started out as a Poser content website, you know. Before there even was a DAZ Studio. There would not even have been a DAZ if not for Poser. Happy that Jack Tomalin, David Brinnen, Forbidden Whispers & co still make some new Poser compatible stuff. Keep it coming. Most big sales are almost exclusively DS only, I see no reason to complain too much.

And don't worry; DAZ is putting most of its old Poser content in clearance, Soon, we'll all be gone...

 

Your old computer has the same graphics card as mine and three times as much RAM as I've got. I try to use Iray and it does work sometimes but it is a bit of a struggle. I keep looking for alternatives, Octane is just as bad on my PC, filament might be good if I can work out how to get Iray materials to look OK in it. I'm going to have a go at Unity and/or Unreal Engine, since they are designed as game engines I expect the renderers should be more speed optimised. But I keep coming back to Poser, I'm on version 12 and it renders nicely on my computer.

 

Victor_B

FP said:

Why offer a useless or difficult item to use? That's like my next door neighbor giving me a bicycle tire when I don't own a bike. They may have good intentions but it's ultimately pointless.

You have a reason to buy a bike and Poser now. That's the Universe sign.

DollyGirl

FP said:

How useful are these freebie items if I only use Daz?  

https://www.daz3d.com/night-time-for-idl-studio

https://www.daz3d.com/essentials-sweater-for-v4

 

For the sweater there are several texture sets one of which has DAZ mat files (redeyecat) here: Essentials: Sweater - Poser and Daz Studio Free Resources Wiki (miraheze.org) 

I am a DAZ person but I do keep a copy of Poser installed for cases like these. This is what I get when I render Midnight03 in poser I am using the IDL Studio for this. I bought it two days ago for just under 4 dollars.

Using it in DAZ Studio required rendering in 3Delight because of the dome. I used Simple Soft Lighting Freebie by InaneGlory on DeviantArt. Which is Uber lighting and I used  Subsurface Shader Base | Daz 3D for my surfaces. Using Midnight01 I got this

This is Victoria 2, Kelp Hair, Fabrina stepping stones, Coco textures, Melaku character and a pose from this freebie 6 poses inspired by painting of Hajime Sorayama - Poser and Daz Studio Free Resources Wiki (miraheze.org). (All of the freebies are listed in the Poser and Daz Studio Free Resources Wiki as well) I guess I am saying that for me these older products have gems that make me learn a little more about creating images in 3D. I don't think it would be as much fun if all I had to do was click the make art button.

 

FP

My take.on Daz is its headed/committed to Iray ATM. At least till it figures something better out. Several vendors don't even include Delite anymore. Our at least that's my observation. Vendors are going all out on G8 and G8.1. Offering old content that's been free for years doesn't seem to be "free". It's like saying after a yardsale, I've got some stuff on the corner I'm throwing away but, you can have it for free if you want. I just picked up another laptop that's a bit better than my old one. If I remember correctly I had it for 5-6 years and I'd bet the same freebies are still there. I'm just going to toss this out there. IMHO Daz ATM is a better product. I see little reason to support an outdated inferior product like Poser.

takezo_3001

FP said:

My take.on Daz is its headed/committed to Iray ATM. At least till it figures something better out. Several vendors don't even include Delite anymore. Our at least that's my observation. Vendors are going all out on G8 and G8.1. Offering old content that's been free for years doesn't seem to be "free". It's like saying after a yardsale, I've got some stuff on the corner I'm throwing away but, you can have it for free if you want. I just picked up another laptop that's a bit better than my old one. If I remember correctly I had it for 5-6 years and I'd bet the same freebies are still there. I'm just going to toss this out there. IMHO Daz ATM is a better product. I see little reason to support an outdated inferior product like Poser.

The thing that irritates me is PAs that refuse to make anything beyond V4/genesis 1... as they take it as personal pride that they stay stuck in the early 2ks!

Posette forevah!

PerttiA

Victor_B said:

FP said:

Why offer a useless or difficult item to use? That's like my next door neighbor giving me a bicycle tire when I don't own a bike. They may have good intentions but it's ultimately pointless.

You have a reason to buy a bike and Poser now. That's the Universe sign.

I'll take the free tires anytime - You never know, when you get a free bike that needs them  

FP

PerttiA said:

Victor_B said:

FP said:

Why offer a useless or difficult item to use? That's like my next door neighbor giving me a bicycle tire when I don't own a bike. They may have good intentions but it's ultimately pointless.

You have a reason to buy a bike and Poser now. That's the Universe sign.

I'll take the free tires anytime - You never know, when you get a free bike that needs them  

I use to think that way and ended up with a garage full of junk. Some of which wouldn't sell in a yard sale. Eventually took what could be salvaged to a recycling center and trashed the rest. It's much better keeping stuff you can and do actually use. HD space is cheap on externals and these files are lost somewhere on one I'll never use. I do my best to keep my interal drive as clutter free as possible.

Torquinox

For products with no 3DL settings, this may be useful. I've used it. I like the conversion shaders, though I still end up tweaking the results to get the desired look.

https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-iray-to-3delight-converter-and-merchant-resource