Looking for an elderly Black male character
lorraineopua
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I have spent yesterday and today perusing the Daz3D store and Rendo looking for an elderly Black male character. He does not appear to exist unlike the multitude of European and Asian elderly males. Does anyone know of one? I'd ideally like more than one but right now I'd settle.
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How old is "elderly"?
https://www.daz3d.com/otis-hd-for-genesis-81-male
https://www.daz3d.com/leroy-8-pro-bundle
That's about as old as they get. There's nothing like a character as old-presenting as Mr Woo, for example. For older than that, you'll probably need to combine Otis or one of the Leroys, and the Aging Morphs to make them older. The advantage of starting with the ones that are meant to be a bit older is that they have skin textures with a bit more aging detail.
What might also work, depending on what you have and your funds, is to use Mr Woo and/or Floyd as a base, combine those with Leroy/Otis at some percentage, and then use the Leroy/Otis diffuse textures. (Mr Woo would probably be more effective for an older character, I'd think.)
https://www.daz3d.com/lewis-hd-for-leroy-8
https://www.daz3d.com/raoul-for-ivan-7-hd (materials can be used on G8/8.1 as well)
PHX Joseph at Rendo
In addition to the previous post, I would think that Lewis HD for Leroy 8 might fit the slot? Or would he only be "older" and not "elderly" enough?
Here we have Lewis with the HD values for both Mr Woo's HD add-on and Floyd's HD add-on set to 100% without adding the figurs themselves.
Looking "elderly" enough?
Elderly to me is someone in their late 70s, and 80s.
Thanks for the suggestions...I have grabbed Otis...he's not really old enough but I like your suggestion of combining him with Mr Woo.
Thanks for the suggestions!
He's not looking too bad at all! Older definitely but not really as elderly as I'm looking for, someone in their late 70s and 80s. I bought Oda May for G8F and that's the age group I'm looking for.
https://www.daz3d.com/oda-may-hd-for-genesis-8-female_Kooki99
In my experience, older people of African descent don't tend to wrinkle as much as Asians or whites of the same age. Your image there could easily pass for a 70-something year old man.
One of the aging morphs products by Zev0 may help. I bought a few for Genesis 2 & 3 a while ago but, unfortunately, have not gotten around to using them yet so I can't tell you from experience how well they work . :( Zev0 aging products for Geneis 8 are:
Here's Floyd with Darius skin and a few key changes to the face.
He looks great!
Using some of the suggestions here I have been experimenting with some of the HD detail morphs I have for older males and using Black characters I've made some progress. Will post a render when I'm happy. Thanks for all the help!
My wife was walking by when this image scrolled past, and she said "that's not realistic. Black men don't wrinkle like that."
Just did a quick GIS and see a bunch of black men who apparently did, so... that's odd.
The biggest problem, I think, is that I didn't have an elderly black skin texture to use; it's using Darius, which doesn't have a lot of the fine aging details it needs.
Was looking at hairs and came across this
https://www.daz3d.com/mehrloc-hair-for-genesis-8-and-81
Does anyone know who the character in the main promo is because I want him!
It's Zale 8.1, Daz DO character
https://www.daz3d.com/zale-81
would depend on the country I imagine
Mother Teresa was pretty wrinkled for example
would depend on the country I imagine
Mother Teresa was pretty wrinkled for example
She was partly joking. It's generally true that, as someone noted earlier, black people tend not to show their age as much.
She was also, notably, not black.
I'll have to get him just for his skin...thanks!
This is what an 84 year old black man looks like
well, I gave it a go with Jeb HD .. then toned in surfaces. a little morph adjust. not sure he looks elderly though ... close?
Very Nice! Jeb is one of the morphs I've been playing with too, along with Harold, Old Chap, Friedrich and Seb. The individual HD details are the most useful I've found, thus Old Chap and Jeb are what I will use once I've settled on a skin which is the hardest thing by far.
Wow. Had a very humbling work experience along those lines. Visually, I placed Patrick in his late 20's... maybe. Turned out he was older than me and retiring at the end of the month.
So, ya if your don't have the clues in skin texture & wrinkes, you need to go with graying in the hair.
I'll see your 84-year-old Morgan Freeman and raise you the 90-year-old James Earl Jones:
As someone who is closer to becoming an older if not elderly Black man, I do want to remind everyone that Africa is an enormous and old continent that have had modern humans longer than anywhere else in the world and has more genetic variation than Europe and Asia combined. There isn't one look for Black people... all of these probably look like someone's dad, grandad, or uncle.
I hope my quest for an elderly Black male character did not cause you distress. I asked for direction to at least ONE because I couldn't find any! Ideally I would have as many Black male characters in my library as I do European, however they are just not for sale for me to buy. As a person who lives in a multicultural country I want my library to reflect that...it's just really hard when the products are not there to buy. and the Black characters I do see are mostly buff and look like they use steroids unlike the people who inhabit everyday life. I like real and it's bloody hard to find
And he is exactly who my son and I talked about along with samuel L Jackson when I was discussing my search! His face is gorgeous!
A question for those who own him...does Zale 8.1 have a different UV to the Genesis 8.1 male?
Living in Germany the % of people of colour one meets on a regular base are probably a bit smaller than in the USofA, but I had some similiar moment some weeks ago, when visiting an (american) football match. There was a black american former player from a german lower leagues team sitting on the seat beside me, and when chatting along, he told me to guess his age, when I asked if he was still playing. I put him in the mid to end thirties which made him laugh... turned out that he was only two years younger than me... I'm 61. Okay, he was a bodily fit man who did a lot of sports to keep fit while I'm an old couch potato... still... impressive.
Oh, no distress! I just wanted to clarify the huge amount of variety in human appearance...