HD characters updated for MetaMixer are: ?

For those of us not using DIM, and not really wanting to download and install over 5 pages of HD characters, a list of updated HD characters would be nice. tia

 

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  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,470
    edited November 2021

    If you do a store search with the word "metamixer" then 16 HD characters turn up - apparently the text has been updated on those 16 to say "plus MetaMixer Shaping Presets for the MetaMixer Toolkit" - maybe keep an eye on that search for a while to see if any more turn up for you? (I only have one of them, out of several HD characters I own)

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    edited November 2021

    MelanieL said:

    If you do a store search with the word "metamixer" then 16 HD characters turn up - apparently the text has been updated on those 16 to say "plus MetaMixer Shaping Presets for the MetaMixer Toolkit" - maybe keep an eye on that search for a while to see if any more turn up for you? (I only have one of them, out of several HD characters I own)

    Are yours working? Because mine are not, even after updating. The only ones working are the 4 that came with it. 

    Something occurred to me. My content folders are highly customized. If the MetaMixer is calling the files where DIM puts them, then they aren't there anymore. I have all my humans in a Humans folder, creatures in Creatures, aliens in Aliens, etc. So, to use this I'm going to have to deal again with the mess that DIM makes of the folder structure. Terrific.

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  • galiengalien Posts: 137
    edited November 2021

    AllenArt said:

    MelanieL said:

    If you do a store search with the word "metamixer" then 16 HD characters turn up - apparently the text has been updated on those 16 to say "plus MetaMixer Shaping Presets for the MetaMixer Toolkit" - maybe keep an eye on that search for a while to see if any more turn up for you? (I only have one of them, out of several HD characters I own)

    Are yours working? Because mine are not, even after updating. The only ones working are the 4 that came with it. 

    Something occurred to me. My content folders are highly customized. If the MetaMixer is calling the files where DIM puts them, then they aren't there anymore. I have all my humans in a Humans folder, creatures in Creatures, aliens in Aliens, etc. So, to use this I'm going to have to deal again with the mess that DIM makes of the folder structure. Terrific.

    From what I can see, each Metamixer slot can contain either a standard character metamixer shape preset, an HD character metamixer preset, or both the standard character and the HD character presets.  The first dials the shape into the mix equation.   The second dials in the fine HD details (wrinkles, pores and so on).  The third dials in both.

    If you increase the viewport subdivision level you should see the impact the HD preset is having (it's probably easiest to see this if you use filament and the gray clay material that comes with Metamixer). 

     

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,302

    MelanieL said:

    If you do a store search with the word "metamixer" then 16 HD characters turn up - apparently the text has been updated on those 16 to say "plus MetaMixer Shaping Presets for the MetaMixer Toolkit" - maybe keep an eye on that search for a while to see if any more turn up for you? (I only have one of them, out of several HD characters I own)

    Why are there no G 8.1 characters in that list?

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,295

    Torment 8.1 HD is there.

  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,470

    AllenArt said:

    MelanieL said:

    If you do a store search with the word "metamixer" then 16 HD characters turn up - apparently the text has been updated on those 16 to say "plus MetaMixer Shaping Presets for the MetaMixer Toolkit" - maybe keep an eye on that search for a while to see if any more turn up for you? (I only have one of them, out of several HD characters I own)

    Are yours working? Because mine are not, even after updating. The only ones working are the 4 that came with it. 

    Something occurred to me. My content folders are highly customized. If the MetaMixer is calling the files where DIM puts them, then they aren't there anymore. I have all my humans in a Humans folder, creatures in Creatures, aliens in Aliens, etc. So, to use this I'm going to have to deal again with the mess that DIM makes of the folder structure. Terrific.

    Actually I've not downloaded Drutherson HD (I just noticed that it was updated) and I've not installed MetaMixer yet either - I'm happily running DS4.15.0.2 Beta (I think - it's on my offline PC so not easy to check) on Win7 and I'm nervous of updating to DS4.16.x.x just yet.

  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,394
    edited November 2021

    MelanieL said:

    If you do a store search with the word "metamixer" then 16 HD characters turn up - apparently the text has been updated on those 16 to say "plus MetaMixer Shaping Presets for the MetaMixer Toolkit" - maybe keep an eye on that search for a while to see if any more turn up for you? (I only have one of them, out of several HD characters I own)

    Store search worked?! Wow, okay ... thank you :-) 

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,302

    memcneil70 said:

    Torment 8.1 HD is there.

    Oops, so he is.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    Catherine3678ab said:

    MelanieL said:

    If you do a store search with the word "metamixer" then 16 HD characters turn up - apparently the text has been updated on those 16 to say "plus MetaMixer Shaping Presets for the MetaMixer Toolkit" - maybe keep an eye on that search for a while to see if any more turn up for you? (I only have one of them, out of several HD characters I own)

    Store search worked?! Wow, okay ... thank you :-) 

    Has anyone gotten any of these 16 to work? 

  • Yes, I have gotten some of those 16 to work fine.

  • SnowSultanSnowSultan Posts: 3,643

    Sakura 8 and the Girl 8 really need to be added as soon as possible. That will greatly expand the possibilities for anyone looking to add a slight bit of toon or anime to their characters.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    GhostofMacbeth said:

    Yes, I have gotten some of those 16 to work fine.

    Thanks. This confirms my suspicions that I can't use it on customized Daz folders. **sigh** 

  • galiengalien Posts: 137
    edited November 2021

    AllenArt said:

    GhostofMacbeth said:

    Yes, I have gotten some of those 16 to work fine.

    Thanks. This confirms my suspicions that I can't use it on customized Daz folders. **sigh** 

    What is your expectation of what the HD add-ons actually do?

    They do not include the shape of the character head,  only the HD details.  For example, Twosret 8 is one of the 4 bundled add-on's.  The Twosret8 HD is also one of the HD characters that have been updated with MetaMixer support for those who have bought it.  These are 2 separate things.  With both installed, you can add either (or both) to a single MetaMixer slot (A, B, or C) to get the shape, the HD details or both.  If you just have the updated HD add on, you are just adding the fine details (wrinkles, pores and so on) which can be hard to see in the viewport.

     

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    edited November 2021

    galien said:

    AllenArt said:

    GhostofMacbeth said:

    Yes, I have gotten some of those 16 to work fine.

    Thanks. This confirms my suspicions that I can't use it on customized Daz folders. **sigh** 

    What is your expectation of what the HD add-ons actually do?

    They do not include the shape of the character head,  only the HD details.  For example, Twosret 8 is one of the 4 bundled add-on's.  The Twosret8 HD is also one of the HD characters that have been updated with MetaMixer support for those who have bought it.  These are 2 separate things.  With both installed, you can add either (or both) to a single MetaMixer slot (A, B, or C) to get the shape, the HD details or both.  If you just have the updated HD add on, you are just adding the fine details (wrinkles, pores and so on) which can be hard to see in the viewport.

     

    The Mixer shapes say they load the figure PLUS the hd addon. If I add one, it acts like it loads, but there is no icon in the corresponding circle and no change at all in the figure's face (I've done quite a few test renders and there is NO change). So far, the only ones that are working for me are the ones that were supplied with the MetaMixer. This leads me to believe I've got to buy something else, which, after having overpaid for the Daz base figure HD's anyway, I'm not willing to do. So I guess I'm uninstalling ;). 75 bases and HD addons I've bought (just for 8 and 8.1) and I'm not buying them twice. It is good for a simple morpher tho, but I can do that in other software more easily. IF there is nothing else to buy, something is not working correctly and since I have custom content folders I can only assume that it's calling files outside the data folder which I have moved and that Studio can't find. At this point, I'm not sure which scenario is the correct one, but I'm pretty certain I know which one. Time will tell.

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  • galiengalien Posts: 137

    AllenArt said:

    galien said:

    AllenArt said:

    GhostofMacbeth said:

    Yes, I have gotten some of those 16 to work fine.

    Thanks. This confirms my suspicions that I can't use it on customized Daz folders. **sigh** 

    What is your expectation of what the HD add-ons actually do?

    They do not include the shape of the character head,  only the HD details.  For example, Twosret 8 is one of the 4 bundled add-on's.  The Twosret8 HD is also one of the HD characters that have been updated with MetaMixer support for those who have bought it.  These are 2 separate things.  With both installed, you can add either (or both) to a single MetaMixer slot (A, B, or C) to get the shape, the HD details or both.  If you just have the updated HD add on, you are just adding the fine details (wrinkles, pores and so on) which can be hard to see in the viewport.

     

    The Mixer shapes say they load the figure PLUS the hd addon. If I add one, it acts like it loads, but there is no icon in the corresponding circle and no change at all in the figure's face (I've done quite a few test renders and there is NO change). So far, the only ones that are working for me are the ones that were supplied with the MetaMixer. This leads me to believe I've got to buy something else, which, after having overpaid for the Daz base figure HD's anyway, I'm not willing to do. So I guess I'm uninstalling ;). 75 bases and HD addons I've bought (just for 8 and 8.1) and I'm not buying them twice. It is good for a simple morpher tho, but I can do that in other software more easily. IF there is nothing else to buy, something is not working correctly and since I have custom content folders I can only assume that it's calling files outside the data folder which I have moved and that Studio can't find. At this point, I'm not sure which scenario is the correct one, but I'm pretty certain I know which one. Time will tell.

    Take a look at the screenshots I've attached.  I've added just the Victoria 8 HD MetaMixer add-on.  One of the screenshots is with the powerpose widget pulled down so that the HD is not added.  The other is with the widget pulled up to mix in the HD add-on.  For these screenshots, I've increased the figure sub-division to 3, switched the viewport to filament, and applied the gray clay material that comes with MetaMixer.  I think that you can see the difference between the two in the details in the lips and around the eyes.

    We will have to wait to see whether the base characters will be updated for free.

     

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    galien said:

    AllenArt said:

    galien said:

    AllenArt said:

    GhostofMacbeth said:

    Yes, I have gotten some of those 16 to work fine.

    Thanks. This confirms my suspicions that I can't use it on customized Daz folders. **sigh** 

    What is your expectation of what the HD add-ons actually do?

    They do not include the shape of the character head,  only the HD details.  For example, Twosret 8 is one of the 4 bundled add-on's.  The Twosret8 HD is also one of the HD characters that have been updated with MetaMixer support for those who have bought it.  These are 2 separate things.  With both installed, you can add either (or both) to a single MetaMixer slot (A, B, or C) to get the shape, the HD details or both.  If you just have the updated HD add on, you are just adding the fine details (wrinkles, pores and so on) which can be hard to see in the viewport.

     

    The Mixer shapes say they load the figure PLUS the hd addon. If I add one, it acts like it loads, but there is no icon in the corresponding circle and no change at all in the figure's face (I've done quite a few test renders and there is NO change). So far, the only ones that are working for me are the ones that were supplied with the MetaMixer. This leads me to believe I've got to buy something else, which, after having overpaid for the Daz base figure HD's anyway, I'm not willing to do. So I guess I'm uninstalling ;). 75 bases and HD addons I've bought (just for 8 and 8.1) and I'm not buying them twice. It is good for a simple morpher tho, but I can do that in other software more easily. IF there is nothing else to buy, something is not working correctly and since I have custom content folders I can only assume that it's calling files outside the data folder which I have moved and that Studio can't find. At this point, I'm not sure which scenario is the correct one, but I'm pretty certain I know which one. Time will tell.

    Take a look at the screenshots I've attached.  I've added just the Victoria 8 HD MetaMixer add-on.  One of the screenshots is with the powerpose widget pulled down so that the HD is not added.  The other is with the widget pulled up to mix in the HD add-on.  For these screenshots, I've increased the figure sub-division to 3, switched the viewport to filament, and applied the gray clay material that comes with MetaMixer.  I think that you can see the difference between the two in the details in the lips and around the eyes.

    We will have to wait to see whether the base characters will be updated for free.

     

    I'll check it again after Thanksgiving. I have too much cooking to do. :) 

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,150

    how do you get the updated HD characters into metamixer? None of it works for me anyway, the included ones, but it would be nioce if someone said how to do it. I dont see it in the tutorial

     

  • HaruchaiHaruchai Posts: 1,978
    edited November 2021

    Updated them all last night so here's the list. 17 in all, where the store search gave 16.

    The store search nearly worked :)

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  • daveso said:

    how do you get the updated HD characters into metamixer? None of it works for me anyway, the included ones, but it would be nioce if someone said how to do it. I dont see it in the tutorial

     

    The updated ones have new shapings for adding to a, b or c slot in the mixer.  

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,150

    Lothar Weber said:

    daveso said:

    how do you get the updated HD characters into metamixer? None of it works for me anyway, the included ones, but it would be nioce if someone said how to do it. I dont see it in the tutorial

     

    The updated ones have new shapings for adding to a, b or c slot in the mixer.  

    how do you get them in the mixer ? 

  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,470

    Haruchai said:

    Updated them all last night so here's the list. 17 in all, where the store search gave 16.

    The store search nearly worked :)

    Actually today the store search finds all 17 - I guess Kjaer (or at least his store page) was updated more recently than the others. So for non-DIM-users, doing the search every now and then may still be the solution.

  • SnowSultanSnowSultan Posts: 3,643

    I haven't seen anything that says you need the HD morphs in order to use their characters with Metamixer, but I own the base Torment 8.1 and he's not available to use in it at the moment. Is that because the HD morphs will work right now, but we need to wait for add-ons to use the non-HD shapes with Metamixer?

  • Lothar WeberLothar Weber Posts: 1,611
    edited November 2021

    daveso said:

    Lothar Weber said:

    daveso said:

    how do you get the updated HD characters into metamixer? None of it works for me anyway, the included ones, but it would be nioce if someone said how to do it. I dont see it in the tutorial

     

    The updated ones have new shapings for adding to a, b or c slot in the mixer.  

    how do you get them in the mixer ? 

    There are new "Shaping" options in some of the updated HD-Addons... 

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