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  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,152
    edited December 2021

    I'll never mention NFT  at DAZ ever again - it doesn't exist to me here.  I'll stick to "what hair is that" and "how do you do this" type posts.   Better just lock this thread because people are expressing how they feel.

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  • enlightened How about some renders for what that mysterious Room 101 must look like by now devil

    Papers piled high
    So high they reach the sky
    Pretty Pink
    And Baby Blue
    Always know, We're thinking of you  heart

    Happy Holidays Everybody!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213

    ...I wish they would ditch the the NFT blurb on the order acknowledgement that pops up after an order is placed. 

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Fauvist said:

    I'll never mention NFT  at DAZ ever again - it doesn't exist to me here.  I'll stick to "what hair is that" and "how do you do this" type posts.   Better just lock this thread because people are expressing how they feel.

    It's not about how people feel, but about what NFT is, what it does and how does it do what it does.

    Inherently the NFT is a Rube Coldberg machine, doing a simple thing in such a complicated (detrimental to environment and expensive) way that the general public does not understand the concept, leaving them vulnerable to unscrupulous opportunists.

    There could be legitimate and useful applications to NFT's, but to use them for those purposes, would require eliminating the environmental impact and bringing down the cost of minting down to few cents.

  • the thing is the processing could be better utilised for actual problem solving such as working out DNA links in proteins etc and finding effecient ways to do things but it's being wasted on a whole lot of nothing 

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213

    ...+1.  

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    marble said:

    Not to mention that the EV exists because petrol (gasoline) is worse for the environment.

     How Green Are Electric Vehicles? - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    OK, I did mention it.

    I still don't think, EV's are the solution to the problem, but they were a quick, easy and media sexy way for the manufacturers to pass the requirements set by the governments.

    Here in Finland, people are already starting to see that (in our climate) EV's were not quite what they were promised to be, just like ones with technological understanding were trying to explain.

    There would have been and still are solutions that would not have punished the average Joe, would have made the current vehicles close to carbon neutral if not neutral even, but those solutions didn't include any dramatic changes and the technologically challenged media didn't find them sexy enough, so just like with NFT's it's all about marketing the idea and branding anyone asking embarrassing questions a neanderthal that's stuck on old ways.

  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,855

    Richard Haseltine said:

    The modern art discussion clearly has many of the same divisive tendencies as religion and politics, so it has joined them in Room 101. Please don't revive the argument.

    And it is contemporary art, not modern art.

     

     

    PerttiA said:

    marble said:

    Not to mention that the EV exists because petrol (gasoline) is worse for the environment.

     How Green Are Electric Vehicles? - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    OK, I did mention it.

    I still don't think, EV's are the solution to the problem, but they were a quick, easy and media sexy way for the manufacturers to pass the requirements set by the governments.

    Solutions don't spring up fully realised ex-nihilo. EVs are a step towards the solution, neither the first one, nor the last one.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066

    Wait... we can't mention modern art anymore?

    I had a great Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood amusing anecdote... complete with a Ford Maddox Brown reference*...

    Modern art is basically anything not considered to reflect traditional art styles or philosophies, produced from the 1860s to the 1970s (though some will argue the origins can be traced back to the late 1700s)...

    Contemporary Art (sometimes called "Postmodern Art") is non traditional art styles produced from the 70s until today... (roughly 11:22 AM Eastern Standard Time)... But that is often confused with being part of "Modern Art"...

    Then there is Pop Art, not to be confused with Pop Tarts, which technically could be made from Pop Tarts, is an art movement that some argue doesn't actually fit into either category, but is usually considered part of Contemporary/Postmodern Art...

    Contemporary/Postmodern Art (along with Pop Art) (but not Pop Tarts, unless the art is made of Pop Tarts) is an offshoot of Modern Art... 

    Digital Art / Computer Art is now considered part of the Contemporary Art movement.

    So... I get we are not allowed to discuss Modern Art... A pretty broad range of art (that extends possibly as far back as the 1700s), and that Romanticism, Pointillism, Realism, Impressionism, Cubeism, Hamsterism*, Divisionism, Expressionism, Fauvism, Vorticism, Art Nouveau, Bauhaus, Dada, Happeningism and even Feminine Art are right off the table because they are all movements integrally associated with Modern Art...

    But does that extend to Contemporary Art as well?... Which includes such a broad range of movements like Abstract Expressionism, Soviet Non-conformist Art, Neo Dada, Kinetic Art, Pop Art, Funk Art, Neo-Gerbil Post Spanky Expressionistic Expressionism**, Psychedelic Art, Conceptual Art, Post-minimalism, Photorealism, Hyperrealism, Massurrealism, Urban Art and Digital Art among many others?

    Not being able to discuss Digital Art on a Digital Art site is kinda weird.

    I’d totally understand not being able discuss Dada or Arte Povera, and especially the Scottish Colorists or the Emu Pointillists, but Digital Art is really a part of all that (not the Emu thing, I made that up) and I think we need to make an exception for that one (Digital Art, not the Emu thing) or else I’m just going to have to keep posting stories about talking cats and Illuminati ninja hamster conspiracies because there will be nothing else to discuss… well, maybe food... but that’s kinda part of Culinary Art and that might be part of Contemporary Art now for all I know…

    Just wondering…

    For a friend...


     

     

     

    * I'm not even sure I get that reference... I'm not even sure that qualified as a joke... but if you laughed at that, kudos for you.

    ** Not an actual art movement, I was just seeing if anyone was paying attention.

    *** Also not a real thing, but this time I got bored trying to remember stuff.

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,871

    Fauvist said:

    I'll never mention NFT  at DAZ ever again - it doesn't exist to me here.  I'll stick to "what hair is that" and "how do you do this" type posts.   Better just lock this thread because people are expressing how they feel.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with 'expressing how you feel' - it's just that other people are expressing their feelings as well, see. 

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    tsroemi said:

    Fauvist said:

    I'll never mention NFT  at DAZ ever again - it doesn't exist to me here.  I'll stick to "what hair is that" and "how do you do this" type posts.   Better just lock this thread because people are expressing how they feel.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with 'expressing how you feel' - it's just that other people are expressing their feelings as well, see. 

    The reason given was that discussion of Modern Art is clearly divisive. Basically - people disagree and say so. Terrible. Just awful - we clearly need to be protected from that.

    (I wonder how long this post will survive). 

  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 1,919

    Is anybody interested in an NFT of my grocery shopping list? If you buy it, you'll actually help me pay for groceries. And maybe a new car. And you have my word that I'll never buy the same combination of items again, so there will never be another grocery list with the same items on it.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    NylonGirl said:

    Is anybody interested in an NFT of my grocery shopping list? If you buy it, you'll actually help me pay for groceries. And maybe a new car. And you have my word that I'll never buy the same combination of items again, so there will never be another grocery list with the same items on it.

    Yeah, right ... like we don't all buy the exact same items every week! I know I do. 

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,639

    NylonGirl said:

    Is anybody interested in an NFT of my grocery shopping list? If you buy it, you'll actually help me pay for groceries. And maybe a new car. And you have my word that I'll never buy the same combination of items again, so there will never be another grocery list with the same items on it.

    And you could follow this up with a list of what you actually bought, the things you added because they looked so tempting on the shelf, the things that weren't in stock crossed out. And it doesn't really matter if you do buy the  same things again, as long as it's an NFT of  you writing the same list again. This could be a real money maker! I'd be intersted ... not in buying it, I want to see how many people do buy it! 

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617

    NFT ? No Future Too ?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213

    ....I like it.

  • in the words of John Lydon

    noooo future, nooo future, no future for you

     

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    NonTangiblePeople means Untouchables, right? Like those utterly lowest class of people in India... those who do all the extremely dirty jobs...

    Why would someone choose a term like that for something to make money with?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,213

    maikdecker said:

    NonTangiblePeople means Untouchables, right? Like those utterly lowest class of people in India... those who do all the extremely dirty jobs...

    ...and Elliot Ness' special team of agents in the 1950 - 60s landmark television series.  Yeah their job was sort of dirty having to clean up underworld crime in 1930s Chicago. 

  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,639

    kyoto kid said:

    maikdecker said:

    NonTangiblePeople means Untouchables, right? Like those utterly lowest class of people in India... those who do all the extremely dirty jobs...

    ...and Elliot Ness' special team of agents in the 1950 - 60s landmark television series.  Yeah their job was sort of dirty having to clean up underworld crime in 1930s Chicago. 

    I suppose that's true but it also shows the imprecission of the English language. For people who do dirty jobs, untouchable means you wouldn't want anything to do with them, but for Elliot Ness it means he can't be corrupted or intimidated.

    Anyway, I'm not sure wher Non Tangible came into this,  NFTs are non fungible, which I thought means you can't grow mushrooms on them but apparently it doesn't.

     

  • MoogooMoogoo Posts: 136

    Just got my monkey 

  • no fun

     

  • Moogoo said:

    Just got my monkey 

    Hee-hee, I like it !

    Way back in the early 70's Abbie Hoffman released a counter-culture book called "Steal This Book". Maybe we need monkey images with "Steal This NFT" emblazoned across it. ;-)

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