Victoria 4?

Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
edited March 2015 in The Commons

I had assumed I had Victoria 4 as part of the basic bundle starter whatnot... apparently I do not.

Uh. Where do I get it? The only thing I can find in the store are things like Victoria 4.2 and assorted bundles, with constant comments about 'compatible with Victoria 4!'

But, ... where do I get V4??

I'd ideally like to get it for zeeeeero dollars, since I just want to get it to make other stuff I've paid for work...

(In case it needs to be said, I'm not interested in piracy or anything unethical)

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  • JoeQuickJoeQuick Posts: 1,721
    edited December 1969

    V 4.2 is what you're looking for

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited December 1969

    Depends what you're after. Do you want the actual generation 4 full figure, a shape for the original Genesis (can use V4 uvs by default), or a shape and uv for Genesis 2 Female?

    Full figure: https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-2-base

    V4/M4 Shapes for Genesis: http://www.daz3d.com/v4-and-m4-shapes-for-genesis

    Victoria 4 for Genesis 2 Female: http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-for-genesis-2-female

    None of them are free, and they're all independent of each other. You don't need one to use another.

  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    Which bundle do you have? The Pro Bundle and Starter Bundle as well as several other bundles list the the V4.2 base as part of the bundle. I suggest you go to your products library pull up the V4 bundle you have and see if it part of the bundle. You may have to scroll down the page to see if it listed in the "this bundle includes" thumbnails.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    I have Pro Bundle. It does not, in fact, list V4.2 base.

    mutter

  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    I have Pro Bundle. It does not, in fact, list V4.2 base.

    mutter

    V4.2 Base IS Victoria 4. It's the most recent version of her.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    TheWheelMan: Pro bundle only has Genesis and Genesis 2 stuff. There is no form of Victoria 4 included.

  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited March 2015

    TheWheelMan: Pro bundle only has Genesis and Genesis 2 stuff. There is no form of Victoria 4 included.

    The Genesis bundles are for the next generation of models that were created AFTER Victoria 4, totally different models with some measure of backwards compatibility with Victoria 4 clothes and textures. But those are the wrong bundles if you are looking for Victoria 4 stuff. There is an actual Victoria 4 Pro Bundle in the store.

    Edit: Forget what I said above. I misread your last post.

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  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    I have Pro Bundle. It does not, in fact, list V4.2 base.

    mutter

    I just went to my product library and pulled up my V4.2 Pro Bundle. The V4 base was originally not included in the bundles but they were updated some years ago.

    When did you purchase the Pro Bundle?

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    I have Daz3d Pro Bundle, I meant.

    I had assumed Victoria 4 would be included in it... clearly I was mistaken. Ah well.

  • MegonNoelMegonNoel Posts: 377
    edited December 1969

    DAZ actually has a lot of different Pro Bundles. Every base character has their own. If you can post a link to which pro bundle you purchased, that would help us figure out which figures and items you should have.

    Also, if you can post a link to the items you want to use that are telling you they require or are compatible with V4, that would help too. Then we can see if you actually need V4 or if they'll work with genesis or whatever figure you already have.

  • wancowwancow Posts: 2,708
    edited December 1969

    dunno why anyonne would use V4 unless they're using Poser. In DAZ studio, the resourses for Genesis all by itself are amazing including shapes and UV for V4 on Genesis. What is more, the resources for Free Genesis stuff is mind blowing.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    It's for trying to use dynamic clothing.

    Which Only starts in a good pose with V4, apparently.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,805
    edited December 1969

    A lot of dynamic clothing is made for V4, and it will only fit to the figure it is made for. However even then some of the looser fitting items won't fit to and must use an animated drape, which you can also use when applying the clothing to Genesis or G2F. And of course you will be using different characters, different poses, different morphs with V4 (you can't simply have an invisible V4 track the visible Genesis or G2F to get the clothes to pseudo fit the later figures).

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    Eeenh. Maybe better off just returning it.

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited March 2015

    TheWheelMan: Pro bundle only has Genesis and Genesis 2 stuff. There is no form of Victoria 4 included.

    Victoria 4 Pro Bundle: http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-2-pro-bundle

    None of that is Genesis.

    /edit
    I see you mean the Pro version of the Daz Studio software, yes, that only comes with Genesis content.

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  • BTLProdBTLProd Posts: 114
    edited December 1969

    For V4 Dynamic clothing, in the T-Pose for Genesis or Genesis 2 Female, (using a shape fairly close to V4) select none and add the clothing to the scene. (Not fit to.) Do a single frame drape.

    Advance the timeline to about frame 10-20 and apply your pose. Do an animated drape.

    In most cases this works. If your pose is more complex, you may need an intermediate pose.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969


    In most cases this works. If your pose is more complex, you may need an intermediate pose.

    And/or more frames...

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    I finally figured out what I had been doing wrong before, where animated posing was just a mess.

    The problem was I was starting with a posed scene and working backward to try to get zeroed pose starting points... and that didn't work well at all.

    Going FORWARD, so long as I keep in mind that I'm going to be using dynamic cloth, I should be... better. And now that I know how to properly freeze simulations (which I had missed before), it's...

    Well, my main problem is probably solved, now. So hey. ;)

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