Top Selling Characters
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So, it looks like DAZ has a pretty solid number on just exactly who's doing well this generation and is letting us in on it as far as "Real World" HD characters go. Aside from the expected Victoria, Michael and Stephanie trio, Olympia, Gianni, Lilith, Mei Lin and Lee seem to be the best so far. I kind of feel bad for Gia, though, because I do see her as Gianni's counterpart. But I do speculate that Monique and Darius will most likely make that list as well in time.
What do you guys think? :)
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I am very annoyed there's no Gia HD set - it's the one I want most, and the one female figure that would benefit most from HD (the V6, S6, Olympia, Lillith and Mei Lin HD sets add far less to the base figures than e.g. the Gianni and Lee ones do and a Gia one should).
Mind you, I'm also annoyed that DAZ have never been able to get the relative proportions of a muscular female's arms, shoulders and legs right so i have to further morph Gia to make her actually look like the real world person DAZ supposedly modelled her on. Gina, at fighting weight, has much broader shoulders and more substantial arms than Gia.
I am in total agreement. I really want HD morphs for Gia. I would also really like to see Freak 6 and She-Freak 6. Maybe I'm in the minority.
Every time I remember that there are no HD morphs for Gia, I get really angry. And I use her a lot so I remember it all the time.
It's like realizing that kitties don't go to heaven over and over again.
Damn, I'm angry again.
How/ Where are they letting us in on it? Just curious.
How/ Where are they letting us in on it? Just curious.
It does not say so in the main banner on the site, but on the blue personalised banners there is the text "our most popular Genesis 2 HD add-ons and characters"
What exactly that means is anyone's guess, but looking at the figures for sale, on the whole they are the ones that I would expect to be the best sellers.
It does not say so in the main banner on the site, but on the blue personalised banners there is the text "our most popular Genesis 2 HD add-ons and characters"
What exactly that means is anyone's guess, but looking at the figures for sale, on the whole they are the ones that I would expect to be the best sellers.
I'm not sure it means anything... Is there anybody who has a separate HD morph that is not on that list (who is not a new release) I just took it as everybody who has an HD morph available separately. (I could also be blanking out on someone, which might also signal that they aren't as popular :P)
Count me in as being angry that there is no Gia HD. I made a post about just that some months ago. She's an athlete with notable muscular definition, so she should naturally be among the first characters to be available in High Definition.
I understand that there may be some behind the scenes reason that an HD Gia is not available, such as that the original Gia character was released before HD morphs were available. But I believe she may be the only base character from all of Genesis 2 that doesn't offer an HD package (maybe some of the teens don't, I haven't checked them). If there's some technical hold-up with creating an HD package for Gia, I'd be thrilled to have an entirely new athletic female character that does have an HD set. We've got a number of female characters with HD sets now, but none with more muscle tone than the original Victoria 6.
It seems like such an odd oversight and missed opportunity, considering that well toned fitness physiques on women are a highly sought after and commercially viable look. Turning up the "athletic" and "bodybuilder" sliders on V6 looks quite cartoonish and simplified to me compared to real-world female athletes - that option doesn't provide the naturalistic realism of a good HD morph.
Gia is my goto gurl and I wish she had HD as well.
I am doing some story work for friends and all the females selected Gia to represent their characters.
It does not say so in the main banner on the site, but on the blue personalised banners there is the text "our most popular Genesis 2 HD add-ons and characters"
What exactly that means is anyone's guess, but looking at the figures for sale, on the whole they are the ones that I would expect to be the best sellers.
I'm not sure it means anything... Is there anybody who has a separate HD morph that is not on that list (who is not a new release) I just took it as everybody who has an HD morph available separately. (I could also be blanking out on someone, which might also signal that they aren't as popular :P)
The lime green scroll box up there now and the one before it stressed that they were "TOP SELLERS". Yes, granted all the characters featured as pretty much all the "Real World" HD characters, but Minotaur and Reptilian have been out for a little while now and they're not on that list.
I'm not sure it means anything... Is there anybody who has a separate HD morph that is not on that list (who is not a new release) I just took it as everybody who has an HD morph available separately. (I could also be blanking out on someone, which might also signal that they aren't as popular :P)
The lime green scroll box up there now and the one before it stressed that they were "TOP SELLERS". Yes, granted all the characters featured as pretty much all the "Real World" HD characters, but Minotaur and Reptilian have been out for a little while now and they're not on that list.
That's what I mean, Reptilian and Minotaur had HD included in their base product. :) It's every HD Add-on for a base character. No Gia because she (I agree, terribly unfortunately) doesn't have one. The teens don't have them either, nor do Aiko & Keiko, and Monique and Darius are new.
Wholeheartedly agree.
...until I beef up my system's memory I'm steering clear of HD for now.. With only 12 GB and given that I create some fairly complex scenes, I would have to dial down (thus defeating the whole purpose) to get a scene to render. Wouldn't mind getting Gia (could use a slightly more athletic looking character) but there's little in the new releases that interests me which I can afford right now and PC items are not eligible.
I'm not sure it means anything... Is there anybody who has a separate HD morph that is not on that list (who is not a new release) I just took it as everybody who has an HD morph available separately. (I could also be blanking out on someone, which might also signal that they aren't as popular :P)
The lime green scroll box up there now and the one before it stressed that they were "TOP SELLERS". Yes, granted all the characters featured as pretty much all the "Real World" HD characters, but Minotaur and Reptilian have been out for a little while now and they're not on that list.
That's what I mean, Reptilian and Minotaur had HD included in their base product. :) It's every HD Add-on for a base character. No Gia because she (I agree, terribly unfortunately) doesn't have one. The teens don't have them either, nor do Aiko & Keiko, and Monique and Darius are new.
I think the lack of HD for the Teens, Giselle, Aiko, Kieko and Girl are deliberate where are either too young or stylized to have such distinct detailing. Teens and youths are supposed to look soft and underdeveloped and giving a toon or a fantasy character hyper realism is rather ironic.
As the parent of teens...that's about as far from reality as you can get...teens may not have the same 'details', but they need them. An HD set for the teens should include knobby knees, zits and a bunch of other things.
I think Gia has always been perceived as one of the less successful figures, but a lot of that had to do with the, er.... how to say it... rather eclectic... contents of her bundles at a time when there was so little native G2F content, combined with the facts that 1.) there was a lot of confusion as to whether she was supposed to be a replacement for the She-Freak, or if there would be an actual She-freak analog coming later, 2) that there were a lot of people who were slow to transition from Genesis to the G2s in general, and that 3) that folks weren't expecting DAZ to release a second G2F figure before G2M and Michael 6 rolled out two months later.
If I remember correctly G2M/Michael 6 was not the third genesis 2 figure, but that was Josie, who was rolled out near the start of the 2013 PC sale.
Oh yes, I agree about the reason those don't have HD morphs. I think definitely it's deliberate, except maybe with Gia, who possibly would have had one if she'd been released later in time, but that is speculation for me.
Only trying to make the point that I don't think "Top Selling Figures" and "most popular Genesis 2 HD add-ons and characters" is really weeding out anything or giving us real information. Every DAZ original character that gets released becomes a Top Seller because we all go bananas for them, so that's an easy claim for marketing to make. The HD add-ons in the list are all of the add-ons that have been released (minus new releases). The characters are the corresponding characters, except for where they were new enough that DAZ isn't quite ready to give them up for $2.99. I don't think it's a case of Giselle selling less well than Olympia, so they decide Giselle gets excluded, I think it's just Giselle doesn't have an HD add-on, for the reasons you say, so she's not in this promotion, etc.
If I remember correctly G2M/Michael 6 was not the third genesis 2 figure, but that was Josie, who was rolled out near the start of the 2013 PC sale.
Actually, the order was V6, Gia, The Girl 6, and Josie was #4. By that time people had already become accustomed to the fact that we were going to get a string of new G2Fs before we got the first G2Ms (and oh, how much grousing there was made about that). As i recall, the release order was as follows:
Jun 2013 - V6
July 2013 - Gia
August 2013 - Girl 6
October 2013 - Josie
November 2013 - M6
December 2013 - Olympia
January 2014 - Jayden
Feb 2014 - Stephanie 6
April 2014 - Gianni
Oh yes, I agree about the reason those don't have HD morphs. I think definitely it's deliberate, except maybe with Gia, who possibly would have had one if she'd been released later in time, but that is speculation for me.
Only trying to make the point that I don't think "Top Selling Figures" and "most popular Genesis 2 HD add-ons and characters" is really weeding out anything or giving us real information. Every DAZ original character that gets released becomes a Top Seller because we all go bananas for them, so that's an easy claim for marketing to make. The HD add-ons in the list are all of the add-ons that have been released (minus new releases). The characters are the corresponding characters, except for where they were new enough that DAZ isn't quite ready to give them up for $2.99. I don't think it's a case of Giselle selling less well than Olympia, so they decide Giselle gets excluded, I think it's just Giselle doesn't have an HD add-on, for the reasons you say, so she's not in this promotion, etc.
Well, of course. I mean, if ALL the top selling characters were added to that list, we would see characters like Aiko up there for sure. But what I'm also keeping in mind is that Minotaur and Reptilian are also supposedly official Gen 6 HD characters and yet they're not on that list despite being out for a while.
Well, of course. I mean, if ALL the top selling characters were added to that list, we would see characters like Aiko up there for sure. But what I'm also keeping in mind is that Minotaur and Reptilian are also supposedly official Gen 6 HD characters and yet they're not on that list despite being out for a while.
I think it's because they came with HD morphs in the base set. Simons also comes with HD as part of the base, and she isn't on the lust either.
I do think the use of "top selling" is just for marketing purposes though. I see a lot of Reptilian renders which leads me to believe he has sold well.
Well, of course. I mean, if ALL the top selling characters were added to that list, we would see characters like Aiko up there for sure. But what I'm also keeping in mind is that Minotaur and Reptilian are also supposedly official Gen 6 HD characters and yet they're not on that list despite being out for a while.
Reptillian and Minotaur came out in December, and DAZ usually doesn't drop figures into the uber-bagain sales until they're a bit older than that. The newest figure included is Mei Lin, who came out in October of last year (HD add on came in November.) And, as others have mentioned, Rep6 and Min6 come with the HD included, whereas to get the others in HD you need to make two purchases to get the full HD version, so the release model really doesn't fit this particular promotion.
Well, of course. I mean, if ALL the top selling characters were added to that list, we would see characters like Aiko up there for sure. But what I'm also keeping in mind is that Minotaur and Reptilian are also supposedly official Gen 6 HD characters and yet they're not on that list despite being out for a while.
Reptillian and Minotaur came out in December, and DAZ usually doesn't drop figures into the uber-bagain sales until they're a bit older than that. The newest figure included is Mei Lin, who came out in October of last year (HD add on came in November.) And, as others have mentioned, Rep6 and Min6 come with the HD included, whereas to get the others in HD you need to make two purchases to get the full HD version, so the release model really doesn't fit this particular promotion.
Note for Mei Lin, Lee and Lilth, the HD add on is being offered at the bargain price, but not the base figure. The newest base figure for sale is Gianni, and he has been out for just under a year, so could be a while yet before Minotaur et al are offered at these kind of prices.
Sometimes in the newspaper there's a Spot the Difference between 2 pictures. Looking at some of the HD female morphs compared to the Standard Def., I feel like I'm trying to find what's different between the 2. LOL.
Female 3D models tend to follow the softer, more feminine appearance and does not go to the extreme in making use of HD. This principle appears to include the Genesis 2 Creature Creator HD. I took screen shots so I'd have a side by side comparison between genders of equivalent creatures. The male version of HD creatures had more details, grooves, ridges, creases, etc. Seems like a female monster needs to be feminine looking to some degree too.
But I'd have to agree with the other posters here that of all the female candidates for HD, Gia would be the one that would get the most out of the HD treatment.
RawArt has an HD Massive morph https://www.daz3d.com/massive-morphs-for-genesis-2-female-s
Fans of Gia can see how she looks with the morph in the last promo pic.
I don't buy or use HD unless it includes standard morphs. I don't have patience or the power on my computer to spend rendering something, that often looks no different to me. So I didn't buy any HD, regardless of the awesome price.
When I was doing the promos for my hand poses I realized just how dramatic the difference was between the HD and non HD V6. Since Iray does not seem to mind the HD morphs time wise and since it does not seem to like displacement very much I'm sure I will be using the HD morphs much more going forward. I agree that Gia HD's would be great but I've noticed that DAZ isn't one for going back for updates like that. It is of course possible a PA will choose to do them and then possibly sell them to DAZ but it would need to be one of the folks who is really comfortable with human musculature structure.
...however, I also continue to use 3DL for a my story illustrations as it allows for more control over the appearance of the final image. I can get any number of effects or unique styles which are extremely difficult, if not impossible to achieve with a physics based render engine.
With 3DL, HD does have a marked impact on render performance due to the higher levels of Sub_D.
Exactly.