Why there isn't any ''Limbs'' products ?
hansmolleman33
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Not only DAZ store but other sites that sells Daz products don't have a product for limbs (body parts)
Is it that hard to have an arm, leg, hand, feet, torso, and a head with morphing size and at the end of the severed limb have an optional bloody material ??
Dont bring up a lame product like this one: https://www.daz3d.com/severed-man-for-genesis-8-male-s
This is not the same, I am talking about limbs being an object on their own...not some figure with shells to hide its body parts..
So whats the hold up ? Why nobody have made a product like that yet ?
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It would require modelling a human limb, ot set of limbs, from scratch when the emsh already exists for the whole figure, it would then require nex textures, and all for a fairly niche-looking product. Why would anyone want to do that? And what is wrong with using one of the existing figures with a GeoGraft to cap the end?
For thextures it would't need that many, it isnt hard to change the tone of a color to represent ethnics. I'm not an expert in modeling but I am quite sure making 1 arm, 1 leg, 1 hand, 1 foot, with sizeable morphs can be maded quicker than a whole body.
How many people actually want a product like that?
Ick.
BTW, Rawn doesn't make "lame" products. Please try to be kind to the creators of models. They are very kind to their customers. Thank you.
https://www.daz3d.com/demon-hand
That's a very niche product, unlikely to sell much.
most people use the perfectly good ones available you call lame.
I have noticed from other posts your standards are much higher than other users, so maybe you need to learn to model, Zbrush is not as good a deal as it used to be but there is Blender that has various human generator addons you can use as a starting point.
If you have a more exotic use for limbs a site called Renderotica I cannot link but you can Google may suit you.
And there you have it.
Why would a vendor put a load of effort into creating a standalone product that will not accept G8 textures, G8 poses or G8 morphs, when it is instead considerably less effort and considerably more versatile to create something like Severed Man, using geografts to hide parts of the widely used ready rigged figure that is, quite likely, going to be the figure that users would want their severed limbs to match in the first place?
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As a general thing, the answer to any "Why hasn't a vendor done [apparently obvious product idea]?" is usually one or both of: 1) It's way harder to do (well) than you'd think or 2) they don't expect it to have a big audience.
In this case, it's almost certainly both. It'd be hard to do, and even if you don't like Severed Man (for whatever reason), they'd be in competition with that, significantly limiting sales.
Vendors wouldn't collectively ignore product ideas that were genuinely easy, obvious and profitable.
I hope that "lame" comment was a bad joke about losing a limb....otherwise it was just rude
The goal of making products is about usabiility and versatility. To make a product such as this versitile, the best way it having it so that it can be used with any character or texture designed for that particular base figure in the store. That way it can use any of those morphs or textures and even poses.
To make a completely independant prop you would then have to recreate all the morphs and textures, and then you would still have people complain "why didnt you make this morph or that texture for it"
As people pointed out, that approach would leave a very niche product.
All I can I say here is - the OP is an unfortunate example of exactly how NOT to make a product request.
Just a thought, but if I were looking for something more gory than RawArt's Severed Man product, I'd just model a "cap" of gore and parent it to the end of the limbs in RawArt's Severed Man product... that requires the least modeling work and re-texturing... Unless you are doing animation, that seems a pretty simple workaround for having to model a whole limb and do all the morphs and whatnot... with the Severed Man product doing all the heavy work for you, you can the focus on gore details.
I'm not gonna bother looking for the render, but years ago I did that with an M4 character... I hid the head and capped the open mesh with a gory mess prop I made in Sculptris... it wasn't that detailed because it was for a joke render, but it was fairly easy... Sculptris has(or had) a 3D painting capability, but didn't export an MTL file... most people think the 3D painting doesn't work, but I found info out there on how to actually use the painted model in Blender and have it generate the MTL.
I don't know if Scuptris is available anymore now that Maxon bought up Zbrush, but there are other options... one is Meshmolder...
https://www.meshmolder.com/
One cool feature of Meshmolder is it does 3D painting, like Sculptris used to (Sculptris was limited to a 2048x2048 map)
I haven't tried it yet because I currently use Nomad Sculpt (a fairly decent sculpting app for iPad), 3D Coat and Blender for that kinda of stuff, but that having been said, when I went to the Meshmolder website to check that it's still there (I haven't looked at it in a couple of years), I discovered there have been significant improvements since I last looked... including a Pro version (for a $5 donation) in addition to the freeware version.
I'm thinking of downloading it and giving it a try, especially now that Maxon has taken over Zbrush... it's always good to try out new tools, especially ones that can 3D paint... hopefully this does some form of automatic unwrapping like Sculptris did.
I would like a products like this I do a lot of horror renders/storys and horror is a real big movie genre one of the biggest btw , so I don't know why ppl keep saying what would sell and what wouldn't just because they would not buy it does not mean the next person wouldn't and I'm sure there are things here that don't sell but were made anyway most of the stuff here I would not buy because they don't meet my "likes" and that is one of the biggest reasons I don't phurchase more stuff from here.
I used that lame product for parts of this image.
If you want like severed limbs and guts with all the gore I'll make some and throw them up on my cgtrader profile. Because I actually could use those myself.
Oh and if interested in gore check out the stuff by Cybertenko over on renderosity.
We're not saying it "just because [we] wouldn't buy it", we're saying it because the Severed Man product can already do this by hiding the parts of the model you don't want, so a product specifically of stand-alone limbs that didn't have access to the Genesis 8 morphs, skins or poses would be in a somewhat niche market competing with a far more versatile product.
Why would customers buy a standalone limb with a limited choice of textures when they can buy a product that lets them exactly match the arm to the monster it's just been cut off?
Sometimes things are made as a passion project the vendor doesn't expect a good return on, but Daz's testing teams have to do a lot of work on every product, so nothing makes it to the store unless they think it's got enough of a market. They turn a lot of stuff down because they don't think it'll make some return.
I have an operating theatre by Mr Sparky from Poser Direct but I cannot find it anywhere online, he only has his freebies on his site now
I bought it 10 years ago
he has a bionic one there though
https://www.poserdirect.com/freebie.html
there also is this
https://www.daz3d.com/operation-theater
Are you looking for his product at https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/bcs/the-operating-theatre/77759/ ?
That was my thought too. I've often just taken parts of a Genesis 8 model to use as a prop and just altered it to fit my needs. Another option is doing some post-work magic.
there are these products
Renderotica Slice n Dice Graft Pack
https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/o96P/gore-horror-props-vol-1?utm_source=artstation&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=homepage&utm_term=marketplace
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/gore-for-amputee/128396/
there are also more I just can't think of them at the moment
Edited to remove Renderotica link