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Baku for G8.1 Male

maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752
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Thanks to Spows to coming up with another splendid male figure. There's way too few of these available in the shop... I mean, male figures with character, not those hunky muscle rectangular face type ones, of which there are tons...

Too bad that it is a G8.1 only figure, which will keep me from buying it for quite a long time, as starting to use G8.1 generation figures would mean that I would have to upgrade too much of my runtime with things that I've already got...

So until someone comes up with a "G8.1 to G8 character transfer" product my wishlist will grow a bit I guess...

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,822

    maikdecker said:

    starting to use G8.1 generation figures would mean that I would have to upgrade too much of my runtime with things that I've already got...

    What do you mean by that? You don’t need anything special to use G8.1, most G8 content works directly with G8.1.
  • TobiasTobias Posts: 109

    Umm, most things that work with G8 will work with G8.1, so you wouldn't have to upgrade anything.  The things that don't work are expressions and geoshells and there are apparently work-arounds for those.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293

    Buy it, but you need to download the G8.1 Essentials update so that Baku works. That will break many of your face expressions for G8 because that old method is superceded by the G8.1 FACS face expression system.

  • QuixotryQuixotry Posts: 917

    nonesuch00 said:

    Buy it, but you need to download the G8.1 Essentials update so that Baku works. That will break many of your face expressions for G8 because that old method is superceded by the G8.1 FACS face expression system.

    Just to clarify this good point: The FACS expressions will not affect the use of your Genesis 8 expressions on any of your Genesis 8 characters. It's only on Genesis 8.1 figures that the FACS dials will be available, and some of your Genesis 8 expressions will not work as intended on Genesis 8.1 because of this change. The new dials essentially replace/serve the same function as some of the older ones. So don't worry about messing up your expressions - they'll still work just fine for the figures they were made to work with. :)

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,174

    As I just posted in another thread, I love how Spows characters aren't idealized. 

  • leemoon_c43b45a114leemoon_c43b45a114 Posts: 874

    Baku is a wonderful figure.  I like his head and body shapes quite a lot.  I do tend to blend figures together and pump up their physiques a bit.  Baku works quite well for doing that.

    However, Baku gets loaded at 100% with every G8.1M, even the base figure.  I had to uninstall him to restore my saved characters or to use G8.1M base without dialing out Baku every time. 

    I've sent in a trouble ticket and am waiting for a refund.

    Lee

     

  • melaniemelanie Posts: 793
    edited January 2022

    I sent a ticket about Baku because his teeth are textured wrong. His front and some back teeth are picking up the gums texture, so he has pink teeth. I haven't noticed him corrrupting other 8.1 figures yet, but I'll check to see if I'm having that issue.
     

    UPDATE: I just tried little Kaden, and he came in looking like Baku. I uninstalled Baku, and Kaden is back to normal. Once Baku was uninstalled, Kaden automatically reverted back to his normal appearance. I'll wait until Baku is fixed before I reinstall him. Darn, because he's so realistic!

    Post edited by melanie on
  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,150

    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    Baku is a wonderful figure.  I like his head and body shapes quite a lot.  I do tend to blend figures together and pump up their physiques a bit.  Baku works quite well for doing that.

    However, Baku gets loaded at 100% with every G8.1M, even the base figure.  I had to uninstall him to restore my saved characters or to use G8.1M base without dialing out Baku every time. 

    I've sent in a trouble ticket and am waiting for a refund.

    Lee

     

    are you saying once you install Baku, if you load G8.1M, he will load as Baku even if you didn;t choose him?  

  • leemoon_c43b45a114leemoon_c43b45a114 Posts: 874

    daveso said:

    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    Baku is a wonderful figure.  I like his head and body shapes quite a lot.  I do tend to blend figures together and pump up their physiques a bit.  Baku works quite well for doing that.

    However, Baku gets loaded at 100% with every G8.1M, even the base figure.  I had to uninstall him to restore my saved characters or to use G8.1M base without dialing out Baku every time. 

    I've sent in a trouble ticket and am waiting for a refund.

    Lee

     

    are you saying once you install Baku, if you load G8.1M, he will load as Baku even if you didn;t choose him?  

    That's correct, daveso.

    Lee

     

  • NathNath Posts: 2,848

    Same problem here - I put in a support ticket asking for a fix.

    This is how Michael 8.1 loads for me

    Michael8.png
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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    Boy, isn't QC great?

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293

    Quixotry said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    Buy it, but you need to download the G8.1 Essentials update so that Baku works. That will break many of your face expressions for G8 because that old method is superceded by the G8.1 FACS face expression system.

    Just to clarify this good point: The FACS expressions will not affect the use of your Genesis 8 expressions on any of your Genesis 8 characters. It's only on Genesis 8.1 figures that the FACS dials will be available, and some of your Genesis 8 expressions will not work as intended on Genesis 8.1 because of this change. The new dials essentially replace/serve the same function as some of the older ones. So don't worry about messing up your expressions - they'll still work just fine for the figures they were made to work with. :)

    Thanks you for clarifying it for those that haven't upgraded to G8.1.

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,546
    edited January 2022

    Sounds like a CompatibilityBase problem, again. Re-installing Genesis 8 Male Starter Essentials should restore it, as a short-term workaround.

    ETA: On second thought, that would be to correct a loss of compatibility in Smart Content... not the same thing.

    Post edited by NorthOf45 on
  • JoeQuickJoeQuick Posts: 1,718
    edited January 2022

    Nath said:

    Same problem here - I put in a support ticket asking for a fix.

    This is how Michael 8.1 loads for me

     You can fix it on your end while you're waiting.  All you have to do is open the parameter settings on the dial that's loading in like that and change it so the default (or maybe value) says "0" instead of "1".

    Then you save the morph out and replace the defective one.

    That bug is one of the many eccentric things studio will sometimes do when you're saving out a character.

    Post edited by JoeQuick on
  • NathNath Posts: 2,848

    JoeQuick said:

    Nath said:

    Same problem here - I put in a support ticket asking for a fix.

    This is how Michael 8.1 loads for me

     You can fix it on your end while you're waiting.  All you have to do is open the parameter settings on the dial that's loading in like that and change it so the default (or maybe value) says "0" instead of "1".

    Then you save the morph out and replace the defective one.

    That bug is one of the many eccentric things studio will sometimes do when you're saving out a character.

    Thanks! I do know that, but we really shouldn't have to do that... I probably will fix it, though, while waiting for the fix laugh

  • benniewoodellbenniewoodell Posts: 1,982

    The whole loading with every G8.1 character thing happened with I think VO Xia Mei (not a character from this PA). I sent in a ticket, customer service got back to me saying they knew about it and were fixing it and within a few days there was an update in DIM and it was fixed. So as long as someone has sent in a ticket and they know about it, I'm sure it'll get fixed real soon. 

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    Tobias said:

    Umm, most things that work with G8 will work with G8.1, so you wouldn't have to upgrade anything.  The things that don't work are expressions and geoshells and there are apparently work-arounds for those.

    Figues by Spows probably are the exception for this problem, but quite other male figures come without textures for the male reproduction organ, so one usually has to use a script to copy a part of the torso textures on to them... which doesn't work with 8.1 and - to my knowledge - hasn't been updated yet.

    If there's ways to get geoshells for G8 working G8.1 I proabably missed the post in which the workaround is explained.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,150

    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    daveso said:

    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    Baku is a wonderful figure.  I like his head and body shapes quite a lot.  I do tend to blend figures together and pump up their physiques a bit.  Baku works quite well for doing that.

    However, Baku gets loaded at 100% with every G8.1M, even the base figure.  I had to uninstall him to restore my saved characters or to use G8.1M base without dialing out Baku every time. 

    I've sent in a trouble ticket and am waiting for a refund.

    Lee

     

    are you saying once you install Baku, if you load G8.1M, he will load as Baku even if you didn;t choose him?  

    That's correct, daveso.

    Lee

     

     

    thanks for clarifying. Guess I will throw him in the wishing well until its fixed.  

  • HaruchaiHaruchai Posts: 1,978
    edited January 2022

    As a more premanent fix (until DAZ fix it themselves) open the dsf from the data folder in a text editor (you may need to uncompress it first). Where the morph is loaded under 'channel' there are 3 values, "value", "min" and max". "value" should be zero and min and max are meant to be zero and 1. Where this error occurs is where "value" is set to 1, it should be set to zero. Change the 1 to zero and save. This will stop it loading on all characters and only load when called by the Baku duf.

    Make a backup of the dsf before editing just in case. If you need to uncompress you will have a bare file with no file extension. This can be edited and after you save it you need to add .dsf at the end of the file name to turn it back into a DAZ file.

    Post edited by Haruchai on
  • leemoon_c43b45a114leemoon_c43b45a114 Posts: 874

    daveso said:

    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    daveso said:

    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    Baku is a wonderful figure.  I like his head and body shapes quite a lot.  I do tend to blend figures together and pump up their physiques a bit.  Baku works quite well for doing that.

    However, Baku gets loaded at 100% with every G8.1M, even the base figure.  I had to uninstall him to restore my saved characters or to use G8.1M base without dialing out Baku every time. 

    I've sent in a trouble ticket and am waiting for a refund.

    Lee

     

    are you saying once you install Baku, if you load G8.1M, he will load as Baku even if you didn;t choose him?  

    That's correct, daveso.

    Lee

     

     

    thanks for clarifying. Guess I will throw him in the wishing well until its fixed.  

    You're quite welcome, daveso.  I'm sure Baku will get updated quickly.  Just a shame that he arrived with this problem.

    Lee

     

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,901

    melanie said:

    I sent a ticket about Baku because his teeth are textured wrong. His front and some back teeth are picking up the gums texture, so he has pink teeth. I haven't noticed him corrrupting other 8.1 figures yet, but I'll check to see if I'm having that issue.

    The tooth thing is easy to fix, at least. It turns out that there's apparently a difference in the mouth UVs between Basic Male (Genesis 8) and Basic 8.1 Male UV in the mouth area. Baku shipped with his mouth surfaces set to Basic Male, which is incorrect for him. If you select the mouth surfaces, then switch them to Basic 8.1 Male UV on the surfaces tab, that should fix the pink teeth issue.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    Haruchai said:

    As a more premanent fix (until DAZ fix it themselves) open the dsf from the data folder in a text editor (you may need to uncompress it first). Where the morph is loaded under 'channel' there are 3 values, "value", "min" and max". "value" should be zero and min and max are meant to be zero and 1. Where this error occurs is where "value" is set to 1, it should be set to zero. Change the 1 to zero and save. This will stop it loading on all characters and only load when called by the Baku duf.

    Make a backup of the dsf before editing just in case. If you need to uncompress you will have a bare file with no file extension. This can be edited and after you save it you need to add .dsf at the end of the file name to turn it back into a DAZ file.

    Thanks a bunch :) 

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275

    What hair products are being used in the promo images? A good PA lists products used.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    mwokee said:

    What hair products are being used in the promo images? A good PA lists products used.

    Looks like this one:

    https://www.daz3d.com/corn-row-hair-set-for-genesis-81-and-genesis-8-males 

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,416
    edited January 2022

    Despite all the listed issues, I am really liking Baku!  I hope they fix what's wonky with him, but I still intend to enjoy him in my library.

    I call this one,

    The Torment of Baku - because I went to load Torment 8.1 and got this happy surprise (which I know how to remedy easily enough)

    .

     

    VT_Torment_of_Baku_3D_Erik_Pedersen.jpg
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    Post edited by Gogger on
  • Animated_CitizenAnimated_Citizen Posts: 13

    I agree, Baku is indeed splended. Though it is interesting to note that Baku is the capital of the country of Azerbaijan. So I was half expecting an Azeri character to pop up. Pleasently surprised by what I saw.

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,416

    Animated_Citizen said:

    I agree, Baku is indeed splended. Though it is interesting to note that Baku is the capital of the country of Azerbaijan. So I was half expecting an Azeri character to pop up. Pleasently surprised by what I saw.

    That's funny - the name threw me in the same way. If it had been "Bakku" I wouldn't have even batted an eye. :)
  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,776

    mwokee said:

    What hair products are being used in the promo images? A good PA lists products used.

    I can think of plenty of "good PAs" that don't list them.

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    AllenArt said:

    mwokee said:

    What hair products are being used in the promo images? A good PA lists products used.

    Looks like this one:

    https://www.daz3d.com/corn-row-hair-set-for-genesis-81-and-genesis-8-males 

    I saw that but I think more than one hair product is being used.
  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    FSMCDesigns said:

    mwokee said:

    What hair products are being used in the promo images? A good PA lists products used.

    I can think of plenty of "good PAs" that don't list them.

    Probably on how one defines "good PA" I guess... people are different... opinions differ.

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