When AutoFit Skirt from V4 to Genesis, Why do i get an upside down V ?
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AN upside down V on the skirt. it looks bad. Is it because of the settings i use?
I used "Original: VIctoria 4" "Type : Full Body" Because there is Type: Dress but a skirt is not exactly a dress.
Can i get rid of that V?
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Type: Dress would probably work better -- you get that V because it's trying to assign the mesh to the two legs. SickleYield has some products to improve the autofit for things like skirts.
It still dont' work with type Dress...and by the way type Dress always has a sub selection "Knee" I don't know why. because the skirts i do are often miniskirts not knee length so i wonder why there's only knee length dressl.
About Sickle Yield products, seems it's only for Genesis
You mean this one?
http://www.daz3d.com/clothing-smoothers-for-daz-genesis-2-female-s
It says it only supports the Generation 6 females like aiko6, Victoria 6 and so on.
I just have M4, V4 and Genesis 2 female and male.
I think it is this one:
http://www.daz3d.com/sickle-dress-rig-genesis-2-female
It says
"Do you want to use your entire Genesis wardrobe with Genesis 2 Female and Victoria 6, premiere 3D models? "
It doesn't say anything about V4/ M4 wardrobe.
It says
"Do you want to use your entire Genesis wardrobe with Genesis 2 Female and Victoria 6, premiere 3D models? "
It doesn't say anything about V4/ M4 wardrobe.
It's a template. It will work with any "from" figure as long as you have the proper clone for it.
It's a template. It will work with any "from" figure as long as you have the proper clone for it.
Oh ok. great. Will it work to fix things like this:
I include a picture.
And is it easy to use?? And does it work in Mac computer?
It won't eliminate it, but it will help. Adding a smoothing modifier might do more for you, did you try that?
Adding Smoothing Modifier didn't help at all.
Did you set the samples to 15 for sampling and 13 for collision? The defaults are way too low for most conversions.
Did you set the samples to 15 for sampling and 13 for collision? The defaults are way too low for most conversions.
By samples do you mean Smoothing ITeratations and Collision Iterations? Cause no matter what i set those to, the V carving doesn't go away
By samples do you mean Smoothing ITeratations and Collision Iterations? Cause no matter what i set those to, the V carving doesn't go away
I did, sorry!
I do have a product that can help that if you're going V4 to G1.
http://www.daz3d.com/sickle-rigging-and-morphing-system
Too bad you don't have from M4/V4 to G2
Cause G2 is the included Free figures in DAZ 4.7
Too bad you don't have from M4/V4 to G2
Cause G2 is the included Free figures in DAZ 4.7
The G2F dress rig will still work with converting from V4 as long as you have the V4 clone for G2F. It just won't be as smooth because V4 is more different from G2 than G1 is. The clothing smoothers are for chest bridging and getting rid of triangular divots on the Generation 6 morphs on G2F.
So then, what exactly is Victoria 4 for Genesis 2 female product for?
http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-for-genesis-2-female
It says "gives you a path to use your existing Victoria 4 accessories and textures on your Genesis 2 Female characters" So i thought i could easily use the dresses from V4 on the G2 flawlessly smoothly without a V in the crotch area. The only thing i ssee is there is a Victoria 4 dial now on the Genesis female.
But is that it? That's all this product does?
At least i would think if i dial the V4 dial to 1.0(full) then aply V4 clothing, that they would fit perfectly. But that doesn't happen. So then, what exactly is V4 dial for?. It's not really the real shape of V4?
It is the shape of V4, but that's not how it works.
When you autofit something to a figure, two things are involved:
1. The clone. This comes with V4 for Genesis as well as the dialed-in V4 morph. It makes fitting basically possible, but not perfect, and divots still happen. To use this you select victoria 4 from the dropdown that comes up on Autofit.
2. The template. This is what you choose from the dress, pants, etc. dropdown that is also on Autofit. Using a good one can decrease the amount of divots by creating a smoother transition. This is what my dress rig product does.
It is the shape of V4, but that's not how it works.
When you autofit something to a figure, two things are involved:
1. The clone. This comes with V4 for Genesis as well as the dialed-in V4 morph. It makes fitting basically possible, but not perfect, and divots still happen. To use this you select victoria 4 from the dropdown that comes up on Autofit.
2. The template. This is what you choose from the dress, pants, etc. dropdown that is also on Autofit. Using a good one can decrease the amount of divots by creating a smoother transition. This is what my dress rig product does.
So since I'm moving from V4 to Genesis 2, i should just forget about perfect Conversion to Genesis 2 and if i want perfect smooth Genesis clothing, i should buy Clothing for Genesis 2 figures?
Wow thats gonna be a waste of money cause i had just bought a bunch of stuff for M4 and V4 recently
So since I'm moving from V4 to Genesis 2, i should just forget about perfect Conversion to Genesis 2 and if i want perfect smooth Genesis clothing, i should buy Clothing for Genesis 2 figures?
Wow thats gonna be a waste of money cause i had just bought a bunch of stuff for M4 and V4 recently
Perfect conversion is almost never possible with skirts and dresses. Conversion that's good enough for a given render often is - I used a V4 dress in the "railroad tracks" promo on this set:
http://www.daz3d.com/tied-up-for-genesis-2
And actually I've used that dress a lot because it doesn't have a good G2 equivalent. I usually use transfer utility methods, which takes longer but gives a better result. I've done some tutorials (this one links to the others):
http://sickleyield.deviantart.com/journal/Tutorial-Saving-Gen-4-Custom-Bones-on-Conversion-417250347
Basically, if Sickle has problems converting something, then the rest of us mere mortals are doomed... ;-P
Sickle's tutorials are really good. Follow what she says and you'll be getting the best you can get out the items, short of remaking them in a modeller or replacing them with items specifically made for the current generation of figures.
Basically, if Sickle has problems converting something, then the rest of us mere mortals are doomed... ;-P
Sickle's tutorials are really good. Follow what she says and you'll be getting the best you can get out the items, short of remaking them in a modeller or replacing them with items specifically made for the current generation of figures.
Thanks so much. I will try:
1. Choose template—SRMS bodysuit or dress or boots as appropriate, or Basic Dress/Basic Tunic if using G2. Otherwise using no template may be best. I definitely recommend that on items with fused pants and boots.
Uncheck everything but Morphs and Reverse Source Shape from Target in the advanced options below. Add a smoothing modifier. Do not check Fit to Source Figure. Uncheck it if it is checked. Vwrangler reports that leaving this checked may result in bad results on superposing items like the Amazing Braid from Renderosity.
------Well, in my Mac DS there is no SRMS bodysuit, there is no Basic Dress/Basic Tunic.
As for dress the only option there is ( Even when i just do the AUtoFit method) is Dress/Knee Length which is weird.
I guess the DAZ people didn't make the correct things for Mac.
and then these are my Settings i use for the Transfer Utility . I'm not quite sure if they are correct because after i do them and press accept.. The skirt looks worse than it started off with .
The resulting Skirt looks worse and has more lines than if i had just done it via Auto-fit.
In the following pictures you can see my settings for the Transfer Utility.
And the other pictures are the two methods used. One is just doing the Auto-Fit , which looks descently good but still has a visible V.
The other method is the one described at http://sickleyield.deviantart.com/journal/Tutorial-Saving-Gen-4-Custom-Bones-on-Conversion-417250347 and in my case it looks worse. it puts a line on the crotch and some lines on the back side. SO i'm not sure if i did it correctly
The first one is for use with her Rigging system add-on.
The second one, which looks worse, should now allow you to go in and adjust weights, with the weight map brush, to help even things out a bit Or trying converting it to SubD, may help, too.
But as she said in the tutorial, some stuff just won't convert well, no matter what you do...the geometry of the item is all wrong.
Yep. No template = no smoothing correction and no bone helper handles.
Yep. No template = no smoothing correction and no bone helper handles.
I just saw the SRMS reference and assumed that was referring to the instructions for it...my bad. Need to read a little closer.
Well guys, glad to inform you that i'm just doing it the AUto-fit way(V4Skirs and type Dress) and applying Smoothing modifier and it works now.
Was able to get much nicer looking dress/skirts. THe trick i did is to change to GENERIC. then bump the Smoothing to about 70 and collision about 60.
I'm glad you got it to work for you!