Duplicate formula found issue

I am getting Duplicate formula found error, when I am trying to load Genesis 8 Female characters.

And I can't find the files I see in the log file. 

You can see the log in the attachment.

Hope someone can help me, thank you!

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  • Please attach the actual log, rather than an image. from what I can see it looks as if there is an issue embedded in the Moonlight3.duf file, if that is one of your saved scenes did you do anything that involved using the ERC Freeze command?

  • Richard Haseltine said:

    Please attach the actual log, rather than an image. from what I can see it looks as if there is an issue embedded in the Moonlight3.duf file, if that is one of your saved scenes did you do anything that involved using the ERC Freeze command?

    Here is the log. And I didn't use the ERC Freeze command.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    That is quite a large log with a ton of problems...

    One thing that stands out is that you have a problem with your Genesis 8 Starter Essentials installation as all the files in ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8\Morphs\Daz 3D\Base Pose Head\ and ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8\Morphs\Daz 3D\Expressions\, seem to be missing or DS can't find them - Have you removed them when trying to get G8 expressions working on G8.1?

    If so, you removed the real files from G8F morph folders and not the dummy ones from G8.1F morph folders.

    Due to the size of the log it would be quite a task to start tracking down other problems in it, fix the problem with the starter essentials first and post a new log

  • PerttiA said:

    That is quite a large log with a ton of problems...

    One thing that stands out is that you have a problem with your Genesis 8 Starter Essentials installation as all the files in ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8\Morphs\Daz 3D\Base Pose Head\ and ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8\Morphs\Daz 3D\Expressions\, seem to be missing or DS can't find them - Have you removed them when trying to get G8 expressions working on G8.1?

    If so, you removed the real files from G8F morph folders and not the dummy ones from G8.1F morph folders.

    Due to the size of the log it would be quite a task to start tracking down other problems in it, fix the problem with the starter essentials first and post a new log

    Thank you for answering, the main problem now is that I'll meet a pop out window when I'm opening this file, saying that dulicate formula found. Which begins from the row 56196 to row 58091.

    In fact this file is just a little different from another one. I just changed the figures' pose in the scene, and I can open that one normally, without the pop out window.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Is the "I:/DAZ/dazown/Moonlight3/004.duf" the scene file you were having problems with?

    If it is, it seems the Duplicate formula problem is just with that file.

  • PerttiA said:

    Is the "I:/DAZ/dazown/Moonlight3/004.duf" the scene file you were having problems with?

    If it is, it seems the Duplicate formula problem is just with that file.

    Yes, and now I've already located on a Genesis 8.1 figure. After I delete it from the scene, the problem won't show again, but I don't know which formula is wrong from this G8.1 model. And I want to solve it..

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    xueyt9518 said:

    PerttiA said:

    Is the "I:/DAZ/dazown/Moonlight3/004.duf" the scene file you were having problems with?

    If it is, it seems the Duplicate formula problem is just with that file.

    Yes, and now I've already located on a Genesis 8.1 figure. After I delete it from the scene, the problem won't show again, but I don't know which formula is wrong from this G8.1 model. And I want to solve it..

    Because the problem did not appear anywhere else on the log and the only references to it were the ones pointing to your scene file, something was done to that figure in that scene that caused the problem to appear.

    If you load the "Genesis 8.1 Basic Female" into an empty scene and you get no Duplicate Formulas, that problem is not caused by your installation of DS or the assets, but due to something done in that scene to that figure.

    But you do have lots of other problems with the assets you have installed though.

  • BejaymacBejaymac Posts: 1,886

    PerttiA said:

    That is quite a large log with a ton of problems...

    One thing that stands out is that you have a problem with your Genesis 8 Starter Essentials installation as all the files in ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8\Morphs\Daz 3D\Base Pose Head\ and ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8\Morphs\Daz 3D\Expressions\, seem to be missing or DS can't find them - Have you removed them when trying to get G8 expressions working on G8.1?

    If so, you removed the real files from G8F morph folders and not the dummy ones from G8.1F morph folders.

    Due to the size of the log it would be quite a task to start tracking down other problems in it, fix the problem with the starter essentials first and post a new log

    Actually those warning are because the blank files are still in 8.1, it basically means that one hell of a lot of G8 content isn't compatible with the default G8.1.

    My G8F log is clean (edited files or deleted them), yet when I load G8.1F my Mie Lin 8 coughs up a stack of these warnings (I don't use 8.1 so haven't bother fixing things).

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Bejaymac said:

    Actually those warning are because the blank files are still in 8.1, it basically means that one hell of a lot of G8 content isn't compatible with the default G8.1.

    My G8F log is clean (edited files or deleted them), yet when I load G8.1F my Mie Lin 8 coughs up a stack of these warnings (I don't use 8.1 so haven't bother fixing things).

    Ok, if that's the case, which means that everybody that hasn't removed the dummy files, and loads a G8.1, gets their log file filled with warnings about the missing expressions...

    Fix: Making the G8 base expressions (and any expressions that are using them) work on G8.1 requires removing dummy/placeholder expressions that are installed to G8.1 morph folders - These dummy/placeholder expression files have no other function than to prevent the base G8 expressions from loading. 

    The dummy/placeholder files are located in;

    ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Base Pose Head\ (255 files)
    ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Expressions\ (24 files)
    ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Male 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Base Pose Head\ (255 files)
    ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Male 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Expressions\ (24 files)

    Please make sure you are removing the files from G8.1 morph folders and not G8 morph folders.

  • BejaymacBejaymac Posts: 1,886

    Or you could make G8.1 stand alone, to do that you just need to remove the DSF file from the "Add-ons" folder, which is next to the "Morphs" folder.

    This will mean no more G8 UVs as well as no more G8 morphs, and it will break the mouth HD morph, as for some reason it has an ERC link to G8's mouth HD morph.

    and no I'm not being completely "tongue in cheek" or "taking the ****".

  • Bejaymac said:

    Or you could make G8.1 stand alone, to do that you just need to remove the DSF file from the "Add-ons" folder, which is next to the "Morphs" folder.

    This will mean no more G8 UVs as well as no more G8 morphs, and it will break the mouth HD morph, as for some reason it has an ERC link to G8's mouth HD morph.

    and no I'm not being completely "tongue in cheek" or "taking the ****".

    Thanks, I'll have a try!

  • Richard Haseltine said:

    Please attach the actual log, rather than an image. from what I can see it looks as if there is an issue embedded in the Moonlight3.duf file, if that is one of your saved scenes did you do anything that involved using the ERC Freeze command?

    I met this issue before but at past I can locate the files described in the log, and delete them, then the warning is gone. But this time I can't find those files. So I want to search for help on how to find these files.

  • PerttiA said:

    Bejaymac said:

    Actually those warning are because the blank files are still in 8.1, it basically means that one hell of a lot of G8 content isn't compatible with the default G8.1.

    My G8F log is clean (edited files or deleted them), yet when I load G8.1F my Mie Lin 8 coughs up a stack of these warnings (I don't use 8.1 so haven't bother fixing things).

    Ok, if that's the case, which means that everybody that hasn't removed the dummy files, and loads a G8.1, gets their log file filled with warnings about the missing expressions...

    Fix: Making the G8 base expressions (and any expressions that are using them) work on G8.1 requires removing dummy/placeholder expressions that are installed to G8.1 morph folders - These dummy/placeholder expression files have no other function than to prevent the base G8 expressions from loading. 

    The dummy/placeholder files are located in;

    ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Base Pose Head\ (255 files)
    ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Expressions\ (24 files)
    ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Male 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Base Pose Head\ (255 files)
    ...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Male 8_1\Morphs\Daz 3D\Expressions\ (24 files)

    Please make sure you are removing the files from G8.1 morph folders and not G8 morph folders.

    Thanks , I'll have a try and tell the result here!

  • Hello!

    Can someone give me a hand here? This is my problem and it is repeating it self:

    input: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Rendorgal/RDGL%20G9%20Body/Hip%20Width%201.dsf#Hip%20Width%201?value

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.156 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7158): Duplicate formula found linking yOrigin & Hip Width 1 in /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Rendorgal/RDGL G9 Body/Hip Width 1.dsf.

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.157 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7159): owner: Genesis9

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.157 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7160): output: l_infraorbital:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Genesis9.dsf#l_infraorbital?center_point/y

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,781
    edited January 2023

    lemonabittera said:

    Hello!

    Can someone give me a hand here? This is my problem and it is repeating it self:

    input: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Rendorgal/RDGL%20G9%20Body/Hip%20Width%201.dsf#Hip%20Width%201?value

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.156 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7158): Duplicate formula found linking yOrigin & Hip Width 1 in /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Rendorgal/RDGL G9 Body/Hip Width 1.dsf.

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.157 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7159): owner: Genesis9

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.157 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7160): output: l_infraorbital:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Genesis9.dsf#l_infraorbital?center_point/y

    Hip Width 1 is a fairly generic name for a morph, it is likely already used in another package and so there is a conflcit.

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • lemonabitteralemonabittera Posts: 7
    edited January 2023

    Richard Haseltine said:

    lemonabittera said:

    Hello!

    Can someone give me a hand here? This is my problem and it is repeating it self:

    input: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Rendorgal/RDGL%20G9%20Body/Hip%20Width%201.dsf#Hip%20Width%201?value

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.156 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7158): Duplicate formula found linking yOrigin & Hip Width 1 in /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Rendorgal/RDGL G9 Body/Hip Width 1.dsf.

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.157 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7159): owner: Genesis9

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.157 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7160): output: l_infraorbital:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Genesis9.dsf#l_infraorbital?center_point/y

    Hip Width 1 is a fairly generic name for a morph, it is likely already used in another package and so there is a conflcit.

    Thank you on a quick response. I'm quite new in DAZ Studio and I don't really know how to solve this. Can you navigate me through the process?

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • lemonabittera said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    lemonabittera said:

    Hello!

    Can someone give me a hand here? This is my problem and it is repeating it self:

    input: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Rendorgal/RDGL%20G9%20Body/Hip%20Width%201.dsf#Hip%20Width%201?value

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.156 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7158): Duplicate formula found linking yOrigin & Hip Width 1 in /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Rendorgal/RDGL G9 Body/Hip Width 1.dsf.

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.157 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7159): owner: Genesis9

    2023-01-08 14:21:42.157 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(7160): output: l_infraorbital:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Genesis9.dsf#l_infraorbital?center_point/y

    Hip Width 1 is a fairly generic name for a morph, it is likely already used in another package and so there is a conflcit.

    Thank you on a quick response. I'm quite new in DAZ Studio and I don't really know how to solve this. Can you navigate me through the process?

    Well, what is "RDGL G9 Body" by Rendorgal? That is one of the conflicting pair.

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