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Why do the toddlers and children made with Daz 3d Genesis 8 look so weird?

DavidbenjaDavidbenja Posts: 0
edited February 2022 in Daz Studio Discussion

I checked out many toddlers models in Daz 3D shop

dForce Ruffle Princess for Genesis 8 Female(s) | Daz 3D

Gage for Tobyn 8 HD for Genesis 8 Male | Daz 3D

Small World for Caryn 8 HD and Tobyn 8 HD | Daz 3D

They seem to look very much like "adults of smaller size" rather than babies. Same for children characters.  I wonder if this is a limitation for G8F/G8M. Are you guys able to make more authentic toddlers and childen?

 

 

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  • RL_MediaRL_Media Posts: 339
    edited February 2022

    kids or men make no moneyz, so no one makes it. it's all about the sexy womenz.
    https://www.daz3d.com/angelwings used to have quite a few more, but they vanished from store. The best I have seen when it comes to kids is that vendor's work.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,259

    They look like surfaces rather than volumes. Their fat defies the laws of gravity.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    I had a few comments along these lines in this thread too ...

    Sculpting Your Own Character? - Daz 3D Forums

  • DavidbenjaDavidbenja Posts: 0

    RL_Media said:

    kids or men make no moneyz, so no one makes it. it's all about the sexy womenz.
    https://www.daz3d.com/angelwings used to have quite a few more, but they vanished from store. The best I have seen when it comes to kids is that vendor's work.

    Thanks for pointing this out. Do you if angelwings posted their work somewhere else? I would be a shame to see their work off-store anywhere!

  • RL_MediaRL_Media Posts: 339

    haven't seen em pop up any of the places I check at.

  • AD NOTANDAAD NOTANDA Posts: 10

    Davidbenja said:

    I checked out many toddlers models in Daz 3D shop

    dForce Ruffle Princess for Genesis 8 Female(s) | Daz 3D

    Gage for Tobyn 8 HD for Genesis 8 Male | Daz 3D

    Small World for Caryn 8 HD and Tobyn 8 HD | Daz 3D

    They seem to look very much like "adults of smaller size" rather than babies. Same for children characters.  I wonder if this is a limitation for G8F/G8M. Are you guys able to make more authentic toddlers and childen?

     

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tiWSZhZ7buQ

  • PendraiaPendraia Posts: 3,598

    The baby model linked to isn't the nicest. I've owned all the previous daz babies and also hivewire's. I think there is a lot to be said for having a stand alone model instead of a morph. I do own that particular model and I do have a morph for it that looks reasonable though. 

  • alan bard newcomeralan bard newcomer Posts: 2,227

    deepsea did some that seem much better

     

  • atoxicatoxic Posts: 146

    I've seen some young characters with adult heads/faces, as well as old characters with similar adult faces which looked to young...
    Becaus I am in drawing for some time (...you know dinosaur style : paper, pencil, ink...) there was a lot to learn about anatomy which influences the silouettes of our bodies.
    For the differences of in faces of adults and childs there is a good YouTube video:

    The lady did an excellent job. She got the most things right, although in my oppion her remark about thin hair is only accurate for babies.
    An example for the underlying anatomical reasons for the change of face structure during growing up and getting old is the cartilage in our nose. This is one of the few parts in our body which don't stop growing during our live. In a newborn this cartilage is short (so the nose is upturned). Old witches - where this cartilage had a long, long time to grow - end therefore up with noses where the tip points toward the chin.
    I took the  question as a challange and tried to get a dial-in character from Genesis 8.1.
    It can be done with sufficient results, but I had to use other morphs in addition to the Genesis 8 / 8.1 face morphs, e.g. some of the excellent morphs of SickleYiels SY200, an adaption of DieTrying morphs to Genesis 8.

     

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,663

    Nice job.

  • alan bard newcomeralan bard newcomer Posts: 2,227
    edited August 2022

    because the person making the character didn't do much research? 
    lotte growing up everyday one picture from birth to age 20 
    and her brother vince... 
    this is what real kids look like... granted the photographer has a couple of cute Or had a couple cute kids now he has young adults. 
    ===
    wow, even better a new video featuring pictures on their birthdays..  

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  • AD NOTANDAAD NOTANDA Posts: 10
    edited September 2022

    atoxic said:

    I've seen some young characters with adult heads/faces, as well as old characters with similar adult faces which looked to young...
    Becaus I am in drawing for some time (...you know dinosaur style : paper, pencil, ink...) there was a lot to learn about anatomy which influences the silouettes of our bodies.
    For the differences of in faces of adults and childs there is a good YouTube video:

    The lady did an excellent job. She got the most things right, although in my oppion her remark about thin hair is only accurate for babies.
    An example for the underlying anatomical reasons for the change of face structure during growing up and getting old is the cartilage in our nose. This is one of the few parts in our body which don't stop growing during our live. In a newborn this cartilage is short (so the nose is upturned). Old witches - where this cartilage had a long, long time to grow - end therefore up with noses where the tip points toward the chin.
    I took the  question as a challange and tried to get a dial-in character from Genesis 8.1.
    It can be done with sufficient results, but I had to use other morphs in addition to the Genesis 8 / 8.1 face morphs, e.g. some of the excellent morphs of SickleYiels SY200, an adaption of DieTrying morphs to Genesis 8.

     

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  • PendraiaPendraia Posts: 3,598
    edited September 2022

    atoxic said:

    I've seen some young characters with adult heads/faces, as well as old characters with similar adult faces which looked to young...
    Becaus I am in drawing for some time (...you know dinosaur style : paper, pencil, ink...) there was a lot to learn about anatomy which influences the silouettes of our bodies.
    For the differences of in faces of adults and childs there is a good YouTube video:

    The lady did an excellent job. She got the most things right, although in my oppion her remark about thin hair is only accurate for babies.
    An example for the underlying anatomical reasons for the change of face structure during growing up and getting old is the cartilage in our nose. This is one of the few parts in our body which don't stop growing during our live. In a newborn this cartilage is short (so the nose is upturned). Old witches - where this cartilage had a long, long time to grow - end therefore up with noses where the tip points toward the chin.
    I took the  question as a challange and tried to get a dial-in character from Genesis 8.1.
    It can be done with sufficient results, but I had to use other morphs in addition to the Genesis 8 / 8.1 face morphs, e.g. some of the excellent morphs of SickleYiels SY200, an adaption of DieTrying morphs to Genesis 8.

     

    Cute morph...I tend to use this little cutie myself...

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  • superlativecgsuperlativecg Posts: 140

    Babies look cute with no teeth while adults look horrifying without them

  • Ted BerlinTed Berlin Posts: 106

    Davidbenja said:

    RL_Media said:

    kids or men make no moneyz, so no one makes it. it's all about the sexy womenz.
    https://www.daz3d.com/angelwings used to have quite a few more, but they vanished from store. The best I have seen when it comes to kids is that vendor's work.

    Thanks for pointing this out. Do you if angelwings posted their work somewhere else? I would be a shame to see their work off-store anywhere!

    AngelWings is here, gallery page https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/5991708785377280#gallery=album42760 

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