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Postmodern, lol

wizwiz Posts: 1,100
edited December 1969 in The Commons

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Postmodernism is an art movement that has nothing to do with sci-fi skimpwear or, for that matter, anything slick and glossy. I'm not even sure if it's possible to do postmodern CGI.

Am I the only one that's bothered when marketing grabs "sound bites" without knowing what they mean?

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  • nobody1954nobody1954 Posts: 933
    edited December 1969

    I think at Daz, everything has to do with skimpwear ;-)

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited December 1969


    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/postmodern?s=t

    adjective
    1.
    noting or pertaining to architecture of the late 20th century, appearing in the 1960s, that consciously uses complex forms, fantasy, and allusions to historic styles, in contrast to the austere forms and emphasis on utility of standard modern architecture.

    2.
    extremely modern; cutting-edge:
    postmodern kids who grew up on MTV.

    Definitely a perfect description for skimp wear.

  • mtl1mtl1 Posts: 1,507
    edited December 1969

    lee_lhs said:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/postmodern?s=t

    adjective
    1.
    noting or pertaining to architecture of the late 20th century, appearing in the 1960s, that consciously uses complex forms, fantasy, and allusions to historic styles, in contrast to the austere forms and emphasis on utility of standard modern architecture.

    2.
    extremely modern; cutting-edge:
    postmodern kids who grew up on MTV.

    Definitely a perfect description for skimp wear.

    Sometimes I just want decent futuristic clothing that isn't skimpwear :(

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited December 1969

    I want decent clothing, period. :-)

    But I guess they took that "cutting edge" part too literally?

  • KickAir 8PKickAir 8P Posts: 1,865
    edited December 1969

    lee_lhs said:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/postmodern?s=t

    adjective
    1.
    noting or pertaining to architecture of the late 20th century, appearing in the 1960s, that consciously uses complex forms, fantasy, and allusions to historic styles, in contrast to the austere forms and emphasis on utility of standard modern architecture.

    2.
    extremely modern; cutting-edge:
    postmodern kids who grew up on MTV.


    Definitely a perfect description for skimp wear.
    Coming out of the 1960's “modern” was commonly used to mean “current”, a moving timeframe which outstripped its usage as specific style period . . . which leads to some using “post-modern” to mean something like from “20 minutes into the future” to “20 years into the future”. :ohh:
  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,676
    edited April 2015

    lee_lhs said:
    I want decent clothing, period. :-)

    But I guess they took that "cutting edge" part too literally?

    Some would say that "decent" requires that it cover the ankles, wrists and face. Covering the face I can understand, but just how ugly or erotic or indecent can a wrist or ankle get???? :ohh:

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045
    edited December 1969

    I consider my last render of a big guy in skimpy pink panties postmodern.

  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    LeatherGryphon said:
    Some would say that "decent" requires that it cover the ankles, wrists and face. Covering the face I can understand, but just how ugly or erotic or indecent can a wrist or ankle get???? :ohh:

    Maybe men were even more easily aroused back then?

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,676
    edited April 2015

    TheWheelMan said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Some would say that "decent" requires that it cover the ankles, wrists and face. Covering the face I can understand, but just how ugly or erotic or indecent can a wrist or ankle get???? :ohh:

    Maybe men were even more easily aroused back then?

    Perhaps it was the lack of pesticides and radioactive fallout? :-/

    But I wasn't thinking of a "back then". I was considering the present. :smirk:

    And I think we should give the women their say about completely obscuring some men too! %-P

    And for the record, any attempts to make sense of fashion is like trying to explain the outcome of baking a big pot of garbage. :-S

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,805
    edited December 1969

    TheWheelMan said:
    LeatherGryphon said:
    Some would say that "decent" requires that it cover the ankles, wrists and face. Covering the face I can understand, but just how ugly or erotic or indecent can a wrist or ankle get???? :ohh:

    Maybe men were even more easily aroused back then?

    I always assumed it was supply and demand kinda - the less there is to see, the more exciting a glimpse can be.

  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100
    edited April 2015

    lee_lhs said:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/postmodern?s=t

    adjective
    1.
    noting or pertaining to architecture of the late 20th century, appearing in the 1960s, that consciously uses complex forms, fantasy, and allusions to historic styles, in contrast to the austere forms and emphasis on utility of standard modern architecture.

    2.
    extremely modern; cutting-edge:
    postmodern kids who grew up on MTV.

    Definitely a perfect description for skimp wear.
    Dictionaries tend to cover the most common usage.

    But DAZ is an artists site, unless they've changed what the "A" in "DAZ" stands for.

    And in the art world, postmodern refers to something that gets away from the glitz of modernism, to something more traditional and more substantial. Postmodern isn't "from 20 minutes into the future to 20 years into the future", it's what you do when you get tired of chasing after the future and try to get back to something real, with a good healthy dose of skepticism and cynicism for science, politics, and alleged cultural movements.

    Post edited by wiz on
  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100
    edited December 1969

    KickAir 8P said:

    Coming out of the 1960's “modern” was commonly used to mean “current”, a moving timeframe which outstripped its usage as specific style period . . . which leads to some using “post-modern” to mean something like from “20 minutes into the future” to “20 years into the future”. :ohh:

    I came from "out of the 1960s", and am very familiar with what "post modern" actually means. It's not 20 anythings into the future. It's a rejection of what the modernists said the future would be, and encompasses everything from Duchamp's "found objects" to Warhol's soup cans.

    http://www.onpostmodernism.com/art

    Rene Magritte is a personal favorite of mine. David Bailey, Lee Frielander, and Sarah Moon are other personal favorites that happened to make this particular list of the 100 most influential postmodern artists.

    http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/postmodernist-artists.htm

    Frielander and Moon, especially, feel more like they're 100 years into the past, not 20 years into the future. So is the work of Annie Leibovitz. And yes, there are a lot of photographers on that list. Another characteristic of postmodernism is that photography started to be treated more like a serious artform, instead of just documentary work.

    So are Harvey Littleton and David Chihuly (yes, the studio glass movement of the 1960s is considered "post modern").

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited December 1969

    wiz said:
    lee_lhs said:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/postmodern?s=t

    adjective
    1.
    noting or pertaining to architecture of the late 20th century, appearing in the 1960s, that consciously uses complex forms, fantasy, and allusions to historic styles, in contrast to the austere forms and emphasis on utility of standard modern architecture.

    2.
    extremely modern; cutting-edge:
    postmodern kids who grew up on MTV.

    Definitely a perfect description for skimp wear.


    Dictionaries tend to cover the most common usage.

    But DAZ is an artists site, unless they've changed what the "A" in "DAZ" stands for.

    And in the art world, postmodern refers to something that gets away from the glitz of modernism, to something more traditional and more substantial. Postmodern isn't "from 20 minutes into the future to 20 years into the future", it's what you do when you get tired of chasing after the future and try to get back to something real, with a good healthy dose of skepticism and cynicism for science, politics, and alleged cultural movements.


    It's called "making a joke", you know.

  • IppotamusIppotamus Posts: 1,580
    edited December 1969

    Postmodern humor ... ... ...
    I don't get it.
    :)

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