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Esmeralda's hair for DAZ Studio

CorneliusCornelius Posts: 132
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Hi! Forgive me the slightly vague title but I'm looking for a particular product; do you think Esmeralda's hair exists for DAZ Studio?
I'm talking about the famous Disney character from the cartoon "The Hunchback of Notre Dame", that Esmeralda ..!
Sometimes it happens that many characters from cartoons, movies or even celebrities are created for DAZ anonymously or with good camouflage.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited February 2022

    Those are the only hairs I can think of where they could be tweaked to something similar.

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-athena-hair-for-genesis-8-females

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-virgin-hair-for-genesis-8-females

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-femme-fatale-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-females

    You have to remember, that Disney is very enthusiastic about protecting its IP, so folks have to be careful.

    You could try Deviant Art, in case someone has created something - but be aware: there can be some errr: surprising images.

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  • CorneliusCornelius Posts: 132

    nicstt said:

    Those are the only hairs I can think of where they could be tweaked to something similar.

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-athena-hair-for-genesis-8-females

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-virgin-hair-for-genesis-8-females

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-femme-fatale-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-females

    You have to remember, that Disney is very enthusiastic about protecting its IP, so folks have to be careful.

    You could try Deviant Art, in case someone has created something - but be aware: there can be some errr: surprising images.

     I appreciate your suggestion but the basic idea is pretty far from that hair.

  • AmaranthAmaranth Posts: 433

    hmm maybe this one ?

    https://www.daz3d.com/2021-11-hair-for-genesis-8-and-81-females

     

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Cornelius said:

    nicstt said:

    Those are the only hairs I can think of where they could be tweaked to something similar.

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-athena-hair-for-genesis-8-females

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-virgin-hair-for-genesis-8-females

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-femme-fatale-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-females

    You have to remember, that Disney is very enthusiastic about protecting its IP, so folks have to be careful.

    You could try Deviant Art, in case someone has created something - but be aware: there can be some errr: surprising images.

     I appreciate your suggestion but the basic idea is pretty far from that hair.

    You're likely going to have to compromise, or make/commission.

    An alternative is to pick some that have aspects that might be close, then combine em.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973
    edited February 2022

    Maybe this, it has a lot of morphs and presets, though no hair band but that could possibly be added. Works fine with G8F as shown here.

    https://www.daz3d.com/amphitrite-hair


     

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  • CorneliusCornelius Posts: 132

    Taoz said:

    Maybe this, it has a lot of morphs and presets, though no hair band but that could possibly be added. Works fine with G8F as shown here.

    https://www.daz3d.com/amphitrite-hair


     

     Did you do this rendering? Beautiful!
    Have you used a product to improve hair quality?

  • CorneliusCornelius Posts: 132

    Amaranth said:

    hmm maybe this one ?

    https://www.daz3d.com/2021-11-hair-for-genesis-8-and-81-females

     

     There is also the hair band; mmm I could use it "I think" on another hairstyle ..

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973
    edited February 2022

    Cornelius said:

    Taoz said:

    Maybe this, it has a lot of morphs and presets, though no hair band but that could possibly be added. Works fine with G8F as shown here.

    https://www.daz3d.com/amphitrite-hair


     

     Did you do this rendering? Beautiful!
    Have you used a product to improve hair quality?

    No, it's right out of the box using the original texture, it works fine in Iray as it is.  Personally I think the darker ones work better though.


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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973

    Cornelius said:

    Amaranth said:

    hmm maybe this one ?

    https://www.daz3d.com/2021-11-hair-for-genesis-8-and-81-females

     

     There is also the hair band; mmm I could use it "I think" on another hairstyle ..

    The hair band for this hair only loads together with the hair, there's no separate preset for it. 

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Taoz said:

    Maybe this, it has a lot of morphs and presets, though no hair band but that could possibly be added. Works fine with G8F as shown here.

    https://www.daz3d.com/amphitrite-hair


     

    Very nice.

    I wonder if it would work with OOT's shader from Renderosity?

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973

    nicstt said:

    Taoz said:

    Maybe this, it has a lot of morphs and presets, though no hair band but that could possibly be added. Works fine with G8F as shown here.

    https://www.daz3d.com/amphitrite-hair


     

    Very nice.

    I wonder if it would work with OOT's shader from Renderosity?

    Will check tomorrow...

  • CorneliusCornelius Posts: 132

    OK well !! yes

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973

    Here's some samples using the OOT IrayPair shader.  According to @outrider42  it's no longer fully compatible with newer Iray versions so you may need to do some adjustments.  See these threads:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/202306/difference-between-oot-hair-and-universal-hair-shader
    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/390206/dear-hairmakers/p1

    1. is the original Amphitrite shader, I actually think I like that one best.  I've noticed that many older hairs seem to work best with their own shaders just applying the Iray Uber Base (which is applied automatically by DS if you don't do it yourself, when rendering). 

    2. is the black OOT shader with no adjustments

    3. same as 2. but with some quick adjustments

    The rest are a few other OOT colors, with no adjustments.

     

     

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973
    edited February 2022

    Here are black samples from a few other 3rd party Iray shaders, with no adjustments:

    1. is the original Amphitrite shader, for a comparison

    2. VYK (Vykhtoria) To Dye For 05-02

    3. SV (Sveva) Candy 01

    4. SloshWerks UHT2 Raven Black


     

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    g8f_alanis_amphitrite-hair_medieval-barmaid_sv-candy-01.png
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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973

    BTW, when testing 3rd party shaders, remember to always apply a shader from the original hair between them to reset the settings, otherwise their settings may interfere with each other.  If the original shader is also Iray I believe you'll have to delete and reapply the hair also (haven't tested it).

  • CorneliusCornelius Posts: 132

    I would say that this thread's initial question has been diverted to another path.
    I would like to understand why it is so difficult to recruit Disney characters.
    As for the hair I agree on the addition of third party shaders but remember that that hairstyle is very dated and even the OOT is quite old now ..

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,822

    Why is it hard to find content to recreate Disney characters? Because Disney doesn't like people who try to use their property without a license, and AFAIK those kind of licenses aren't exactly cheap...

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,436

    Cornelius said:

    I would say that this thread's initial question has been diverted to another path.
    I would like to understand why it is so difficult to recruit Disney characters.

    Because Disney is protective of their intellectual property - they don't want Disney princesses in porn scenes, and trademarks (unlike copyright) have to be actively protected if they are not to lapse.

    As for the hair I agree on the addition of third party shaders but remember that that hairstyle is very dated and even the OOT is quite old now ..

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973

    Sorry, looks like the images disappeared from one of my latest posts, have added them again...

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