What gallery do you all use?
daveso
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I know there are galleries about other than the one here at DAZ. Where is the best place to display your art? Where there maybe can be some critque, where people actually do it without being dodgy and without being cranky about it.
Overall I do just regular art not sexually explicit stuff, other a few nudes once i awhile, so I really don't need an x rated place but a place that will allow full nudity and not having that be a problem.
Thank you.
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I'm not sure how active people are to critique art. But there is a forum section. Sometimes people will give feedback https://www.daz3d.com/forums/categories/art-studio
You can also use deviantart https://www.deviantart.com/parisgranville It seems appropriate for hobbiest. People are nice there. I get likes there but rarely any comments.
My daughter uses Art Station, but she says the vibe there is more about professional artists setting up their portfolio and people can be harsh.
deviantArt is probably best for what you want. Despite the name, not everything there is smut or explicit (though there's a LOT of weird stuff there). Artstation is for pros that are looking for work, so is Behance for the most part, pixV is for Japanese artists (and there's a lot of explicit stuff there), and if you have a following on social media, Facebook and Twitter can sometimes get your art seen too.
I've been on Deviant for quite awhile but rarely go there. Maqybe will start being more active. FB I use mainly for social commentary and connection with friends and relatives. There is a DAZ group there which I sometimes post to but not often. I quite using rendo gallery quite a few years ago.
Renderosity allows nudity (but not explicit material) as members have to opt-in to see it, you can ask for feedback in your comments too. They are pretty tough on violence though and I had one bloodless scene removed for an accidental violation of the TOS. I post everything at Rendo because I can't use the galleries here.
I was hoping this thread might bring up some new options for me, but sadly no. My work usually has nudity, violence, gore, even extreme or explicit themes. It's nice to have a couple of publishers that pay for these kinds of themes, but I miss being able to post images with like minded people on a forum or gallery.
I can't use the galleries here anymore (and didn't like how they functioned much, anyway, TBH), either, so I only post on Renderosity. It's nice, pretty mellow. Of course, I don't create anything extreme :-) I used to have a DA account, but it just got loaded with spam so I deleted it. Less useful commentary over there (for myself, anyway).
It's not easy to find a place that welcomes material meant for adults without the place devolving into something surprisingly repellent and repetitive. At least that's been my observation. DA spans the gap while remaining friendly, interesting and varied better than anywhere I've found on the web. But there is a lot that is still off-limits - At least in theory.
Mostly, I've found places that I cant recommend or that have failed to capture an audience.
Even gallery sites where people pay to "support" an artist are eliminating art with certain content. The artists are replacing the "offending" images with BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU graphics. Some artists have had a third of their images removed. If you want to do an image of the crucifixion (without nudity), like 50,000 artists have painted over the centuries - it will be removed.
I post at DA, Renderosity, and here. DA is currently my preferred gallery. My images get the most "exposure" at DA, and the people there that follow/comment are generally quite friendly (I occasionally have someone who hates the world comment - but it's easy to block the blockheads). Renderosity isn't the place it once was, but I have a handful of followers there so it's the second place I go to. My gallery here is a bit of an after thought now. I get very little traffic/feedback, browsing the gallery here is simply way too painful, and the constraints on what can be posted are IMHO a bit too restrictive.
DA does have a lot of .... uummmm .... lets just call it "fetish art". If you can get past that, there are some REALLY amazing artists at DA. There are some beautiful fantasy/sci-fi/contemporary works, a lot of "2D" artists as well as photographers. and other art forms. The biggest downside to DA is there are so many images posted there your images get "lost" really really quickly if you don't get a lot of views in the first hour (I would guess they get several hundered images posted per hour). When I first started there I was lucky to get 20-30 views and a couple favorites per image (better than here though). It took me a while to figure out that I needed to join a few groups that are focused on themes similar to what I like, even if the majority of the images in their galleries weren't quite what I was looking for. After joining the group, you can submit images to their galleries, and that will really help you to get more views/exposure which should also result in more followers (keep in mind there are also members there that just look at/for art, and have followers that watch them to see the images they favorite - so getting favorites can also increase traffic in your gallery). There are groups at DA that also have sections (galleries) for people looking for critiques. My advice would be to look for groups to join that you would be interested in, and that your art would fit with. When you submit an image to your gallery, also submit it to the appropriate section of the groups you have joined. That will get your art seen by more people, and slowly you will gain followers and meet people with similar interests. Don't expect the get a lot of interest for a while, and have at least 5-10 images in your gallery before asking to join any groups. There are also several DAZ related groups there and some of those also have sections for critiques.
I sometimes do nudes, quite a few pinup style images, as well as Sci-Fi and fantasy. I've never had an image removed at DA or Renderosity, But I don't do any "exteme" nudes, controversial/political/gore/extreme violence or "in the act images".
I also paid for a CORE membership at DA. I used the free account for many years, but decided to try CORE when they changed to the current design/forma. A lot of the statistical info on my gallery was only available to CORE members with the changeover. It's worth it to me, it helps me to evaluate my progress as an artist (or at least if more people are liking my images), and it includes a service where DA scans the web for your images, and they let you know if they show up for sale some where (I got notified when someone was trying to sell 5 of my images as NFT's).
Hope this helps a bit.
...there is also a Daz Reddit group.
I've been getting more looks, faves, and watchers on DA since joining Core. Membership also includes a notification service if your work ended up as an NFT without your permission. I already received one but it wasn't the same piece I did (a parody of an old British war poster) just one that used the same format.
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I do deviant art. It allows for the most control over who I interact with and who interacts with me. My art seems pretty popular there. I did not like renderosity's gallery as they can be trolled and you cannot block people from leaving comments. Daz galleries are okay as well, although I dislike the way it is organized and accessed and the following is not there. it seems designed to churn out art for promotional purposes in the store than anything and there is no way to follow the artists I want to see more of.
Thanks for the info, just checked out the reddit and joined.
The number of people who view galleries at that site are obscenely low.
...yeah I found that in the Daz Gallery, you can only choose from the list of Daz products in the drop down field and several I used in my Child of War image wouldn't come up. Also not satisfied with the limited choices of category/genre. That seriously needs to be expanded.
In he previous iteration of the gallery, you could still manually enter the products used and tags. The only reason "Leela" was there was because I used it before the gallery was changed and it remained in the gallery's database.
I also wish they'd take the NFT banner off the gallery main page.
Agreed, which is why I stopped posting there. Plus it had the same fan club vibe that the gallries here have.
If you are looking to post some extreme contents and still want interacation from like-minded people. Pixiv is the site for you. Although it is a japanese-base site but there's still a lot traffic come outside of japan.
Even though I don't post much I'd like the following embellishments at the DAZ Gallery:
1) Videos of animations (Almost certainly not going to happen as it takes much longer to view a video and search for gotchas than just a single image.)
2) Allow posters to mark up the text that accompanies a render (set) in HTML or some sort of markup language.
I mean I can use YouTube or Vimeo for videos so no big deal, but the HTML markup for render notes (like we have for forum posts for example) would be very nice.
I use DeviantArt and Facebook. If you're looking for constructive criticism, I'd suggest posting in a Daz FB group as there are several out there and people are always willing to provide feedback...though as always when asking for feedback, you might not like what you hear so caution advised. If your FB is reserved for your "public face" as mine is, then only post in private groups, where your family and friends and coworkers won't be able to see what you post. Or...make up an art-only profile. There is also Patreon, but that is less for feedback and more for reaching people who want to follow you for your work or process or knowledge.
If the art ctique is anything like the other posts on FB, I'll pass. nasty people. DA might be the place for me.
So far I have just used the Daz gallery, nothing in my renders has upset any of the mods there yet. However, I'm planning to also use Deviant Art starting soon.
The one big Daz group I participate in isn't bad at all, especially when considering the cesspool that is social media. It's just my experience that when one asks for critque, in general...they oftentimes don't like what they hear.
And don't include URLs for other sites in your image sifnatures. Instant deletion.
Slushe is a newish site for adult material that has quite a few members now.
Warning absolutely NSFW!
Much of the stuff there is beyond what I would normally render but they do have a few people just doing pin-ups etc.
I am on a DAZ group on FB and it is one of the best groups there. probably same one :)
But it's..........facebook