Strand Based Hair question re Jepe's Roderick

Hylas

https://www.daz3d.com/jepes-roderick-for-diego-8

How do I get Rodericks various SBH elements on a different character?

I tried saving his SBH as Scene Subsets. But when I load those subsets I see no way to fit them to a new character.

I suppose I could load Roderick, remove his shape and skin, and continue from there... but 1) that seems like a rather tedious work around,

and more importantly, 2) I'd like to work with 8.1. When I click on the "JP Roderick + SB Hair" Actor icon while having a G8.1M selected, it just loads a new G8M into the scene instead of giving me the option to apply Roderick to the selected G8.1M figure, like it normally does.

I never really got into SBH so I may be missing something here...

Help would be appreciated! Thank you!

Gordig

A potential issue is that SBH is tied to surfaces, and 8.1 has different surfaces than 8. I'm testing it out now, but that's what I see as a possible complication.

Gordig

So far, my experiences are the same as yours. I start with 8.1M in the scene, double-click the Roderick + SBH preset, and it loads Roderick as a new figure. I tried re-parenting the SBH to 8.1, and nothing happened. I haven't tested it all the way yet, but converting each hair component to a figure and then using the Transfer Utility to rig it to 8.1 seems to work. You would then need to save the hair as props and/or a scene subset to make it usable on future characters, so you're not repeating this process every time.

Gordig

I may have to walk that last statement back, as the Transfer Utility appears to be hung on the first bit of hair I tried running it on.

edit: it did finally finish, but it took an inordinately long time, which just increases the necessity of saving these as new props once you're done.

Gordig

You know what? Just ignore everything I said. I'm not sure this can be done.

Hylas

Thanks for looking into it!

I'm hoping for some more input, perhaps from @jepegraphics himself? *bats lashes*

nonesuch00

Hylas said:

Thanks for looking into it!

I'm hoping for some more input, perhaps from @jepegraphics himself? *bats lashes*

I've done it and it's sort of hit 'n miss, mostly hit.

You just use reparent the hair, section by section, to the 2nd model. And after you do a section, at the top of the hair in the parameters pane there is a 'radio button' (in programmer GUI speak) "Apply Transformation" that you click to the pressed state and that causes the hair to 'autofit' to the new model (AGAIN though: AFTER reparenting the hair to the desired new model). It does have to be a G8M/G8.1M model, although I can't say I've tried it with a G8F/G8.1F model to say definitivey it wouldn't work. I have tried it on similar old 3DU toon animals with the basic same layouts regarding surface areas but that will not work.

Note: You'll have better 'fit & follow' success if you put both in a t-pose/a-pose in the same (x, y, z) location. If you can't put in a t-pose/a-pose then copy the pose of Roderick & paste that pose to the model you want to transfer the Roderick hair to.

Hylas

Can't figure it out

Refund requested.