Dforce on Genesis figures

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[Dforce on Genesis figures] Is this possible? I've seen many geograft with dForce but never figure releases. I'd suspect it should be 100% possible but maybe a headache, warranting the lack of any figure/preset release with soft body physics.

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I would like to add that as of now, I am working and unable to actually test this out myself. Perhaps I'm hoping to save time by not wasting it when I'm home.

IceCrMn

Yeah, but they usually turn into puddles of goo on the floor because they have no skeleton holding anything in place.They are actually just hollow shells.

A lot like the hollow chocolate Easter bunnies. 

Interesting effect, but not very useful for most things.

 

The most success for soft body effects currently comes from the Smoothing modifier.

Most of the solutions apply a geoshell, or most of one, to a characters hands/arms or whatever is going to do the impacting, and then a smoothing modifier is added to the character/object that is going to be getting squished/squeezed and setting the target for the smoother as the geoshell "glove" mentioned before.

Results vary, and it's not perfect.

 

edit: I should say this is for generic soft body effects.One can always import the mesh into a modeler(hexagon,blender,etc,etc) and make custom morphs for the soft body impact points.Several store products do this for "micro compression" for things like stockings and bras.

IceCrMn

Might be able to work something out with weightmaps though.

Someone with more experience painting them would need to step in and provide more details but you should have better control over what drooped and by how much.

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IceCrMn said:

The most success for soft body effects currently comes from the Smoothing modifier.

Yah I know about smoothing modifier collisions but this isn't exactly what I want. I want to be able to simulate lifelike soft body tissue such as breast, thigh and glute jiggles. I think a proper dforce map may be able to suffice a better collision affect, as well. Many geograft a have dforce and I believe the same principle for their ability to dforce should apply the same as a figure, since they are also essentially shells. I'll experiment tomorrow. Maybe even mimic some geograft weights onto a figure and see how that reacts. I just know that red weight painting = bad, jelly goop on the floor.. Perhaps if I have success, I'll post it. I'm sure there has to be constraint modifiers and dampening and all that good stuff.

Gordig

I dForced a G8M for this render:

Greetings, Fellow Human

I'm just out ambulating, how are your circumstances?

Padone

First dforce is a cloth simulator, not a softbody simulator, so you'll never get softbody effects with dforce. The best you can do is "bouncings" with elastic surfaces but you can't preserve the volume since cloth doesn't.

Then the genesis geometry doesn't fit for simulation. That is, it is designed for topology not for physics properties. A detailed surface will get a detailed topology but from a physics point of view the surface could be rigid and in need of no details at all. That is, in a simulation every edge is seen as a spring, that has nothing to do with the figure topology.

This is why you can't do anything good with daz studio it just doesn't provide the needed tools. You will need at least a softbody simulator and a proxy modifier to drive the figure topology with the physics proxy. That's what we did in blender.

https://diffeomorphic.blogspot.com/2022/01/softbody-simulations.html

https://bitbucket.org/Diffeomorphic/import_daz/issues/828/she-likes-to-move-it-move-it-aka-softbody