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SY Rigged Water Iray 2022 question

davesodaveso Posts: 7,149
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what does it mean when the product states: "This set is not recommended for lower-end systems owing to the combination of high poly count and refraction on the water pieces." ?
What is considered the lower end system today in this world of ever advancing systems. 

SY Rigged Water Iray 2022 | Daz 3D

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  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,644
    edited April 2022

    Hallo! SickleYield here. Very reasonable question.

    I have a 2080ti/1080 combo, and that's all that I have to work with/test with at the moment other than this laptop whose gpu is not Iray-compatible. (I want a 3k series card but don't have the money to spare at the moment.) Since Iray primarily uses one GPU, the second one's probably mostly running my two monitors.

    Rendering is a bit slow on my machine if I use every piece in the set at once with refraction, because most of the water pieces are 100,000 to 200,000 polygons (a few are less, the sloshes and the smooth water piece). I don't allow my computer to spend more than about thirty minutes on any render after the double-sized main promo. From that I conclude that if someone has a system with, say, just a GTX 1060, it's not going to be feasible for them to set up water pouring renders with a character and a full set and dForce hair and clothing simulation if they want renders to take minutes rather than hours.

    My promo renders are pretty stripped down as to contents other than the ones I made (just swimsuits, small hair pieces, no more than two figures in the scene, using my own shower set that's included, no people at all in the water pouring renders with multiple pieces in them, absolutely no HD morphs, etc.), but that's not the likeliest use case for most people. I could do a pretty heavy-duty render with these pieces if I had the whole day for just the one render, but I don't think someone with an older card probably could.

    I'm never sure what's the best way to get this across to a customer. I don't know if Daz will let me just put my specs on the product page or not, I've admittedly been scared to try that.

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  • MoogooMoogoo Posts: 136

    Hey Sickleyield will you be doing a updated naturally flush for 8.1?

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,644

    Moogoo said:

    Hey Sickleyield will you be doing a updated naturally flush for 8.1?

    Maybe at some point? It did sell a lot of copies over time.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,149

    SickleYield said:

    Hallo! SickleYield here. Very reasonable question.

    I have a 2080ti/1080 combo, and that's all that I have to work with/test with at the moment other than this laptop whose gpu is not Iray-compatible. (I want a 3k series card but don't have the money to spare at the moment.) Since Iray primarily uses one GPU, the second one's probably mostly running my two monitors.

    Rendering is a bit slow on my machine if I use every piece in the set at once with refraction, because most of the water pieces are 100,000 to 200,000 polygons (a few are less, the sloshes and the smooth water piece). I don't allow my computer to spend more than about thirty minutes on any render after the double-sized main promo. From that I conclude that if someone has a system with, say, just a GTX 1060, it's not going to be feasible for them to set up water pouring renders with a character and a full set and dForce hair and clothing simulation if they want renders to take minutes rather than hours.

    My promo renders are pretty stripped down as to contents other than the ones I made (just swimsuits, small hair pieces, no more than two figures in the scene, using my own shower set that's included, no people at all in the water pouring renders with multiple pieces in them, absolutely no HD morphs, etc.), but that's not the likeliest use case for most people. I could do a pretty heavy-duty render with these pieces if I had the whole day for just the one render, but I don't think someone with an older card probably could.

    I'm never sure what's the best way to get this across to a customer. I don't know if Daz will let me just put my specs on the product page or not, I've admittedly been scared to try that.

    Thanks for the reply. I'm using an RTX 2070Super, so doable but probably a bit on the edge. Most stuff I render seems fine but I've noticed since DS4.20 my renders are taking longer. Not sure why though. Same stuff, Longer times. I will say what you;ve done here looks mighty nice in the promos 

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,644

    daveso said:

    SickleYield said:

    Hallo! SickleYield here. Very reasonable question.

    I have a 2080ti/1080 combo, and that's all that I have to work with/test with at the moment other than this laptop whose gpu is not Iray-compatible. (I want a 3k series card but don't have the money to spare at the moment.) Since Iray primarily uses one GPU, the second one's probably mostly running my two monitors.

    Rendering is a bit slow on my machine if I use every piece in the set at once with refraction, because most of the water pieces are 100,000 to 200,000 polygons (a few are less, the sloshes and the smooth water piece). I don't allow my computer to spend more than about thirty minutes on any render after the double-sized main promo. From that I conclude that if someone has a system with, say, just a GTX 1060, it's not going to be feasible for them to set up water pouring renders with a character and a full set and dForce hair and clothing simulation if they want renders to take minutes rather than hours.

    My promo renders are pretty stripped down as to contents other than the ones I made (just swimsuits, small hair pieces, no more than two figures in the scene, using my own shower set that's included, no people at all in the water pouring renders with multiple pieces in them, absolutely no HD morphs, etc.), but that's not the likeliest use case for most people. I could do a pretty heavy-duty render with these pieces if I had the whole day for just the one render, but I don't think someone with an older card probably could.

    I'm never sure what's the best way to get this across to a customer. I don't know if Daz will let me just put my specs on the product page or not, I've admittedly been scared to try that.

    Thanks for the reply. I'm using an RTX 2070Super, so doable but probably a bit on the edge. Most stuff I render seems fine but I've noticed since DS4.20 my renders are taking longer. Not sure why though. Same stuff, Longer times. I will say what you;ve done here looks mighty nice in the promos 

    Thanks!

    I know that's an issue some people are having with 4.20. I'm using a public beta version at the moment that seems to be faster.

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