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Custom sculpt expressions?

AsariAsari Posts: 703
edited April 2022 in The Commons
Which G8 custom sculpted expression packs do you know of? I mean expression packs with custom expression morphs, not expressions based on the existing sliders. I know of Unique Smiles by PedroFurtado and DAZ's own HD morphs pack but I wonder are there any more that I am not aware if? I lost track because I'm not watching the stores as closely as I used to be.
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  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,152

    Search AlFan on the store search.  Excellent ORIGINAL expression morphs.  I buy every product.

  • AsariAsari Posts: 703
    Fauvist said:

    Search AlFan on the store search.  Excellent ORIGINAL expression morphs.  I buy every product.

    Thanks for this! This is exactly what I'm looking for. Sadly there is no G8M pack but if I use G8F these will come in handy.
  • RaketeRakete Posts: 91
    edited April 2022

    I am wondering myself how to spot actual morphs as opposed to just poses that move the face bones.

    What about these?

    https://www.daz3d.com/venus-smile-for-genesis-81-female

    https://www.daz3d.com/venus-smile-for-genesis-8-female

    They look to me like they would be custom morphs, but there is no way to really tell or is there?

    EDIT: In the "What's Included and Features" section it says both "Expressions" and "Morphs", I interpret that as the product contains some expression sliders, and those control a couple of custom sculpted morphs.

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  • AsariAsari Posts: 703
    Rakete said:

    I am wondering myself how to spot actual morphs as opposed to just poses that move the face bones.

    What about these?

    https://www.daz3d.com/venus-smile-for-genesis-81-female

    https://www.daz3d.com/venus-smile-for-genesis-8-female

    They look to me like they would be custom morphs, but there is no way to really tell or is there?

    EDIT: In the "What's Included and Features" section it says both "Expressions" and "Morphs", I interpret that as the product contains some expression sliders, and those control a couple of custom sculpted morphs.

    It's really difficult to spot, and sometimes you only know once you've purchased a product. I know I have mistaken one product once, and fortunately I was able to return it. DAZ return policy us really great.

    I only discovered the Unique Smile product by accident. Sometimes it's also helpful to just look at the promo images. The posed expressions look similar, while of course custom sculpted expression morphs can bring out results that you cannot achieve with poses and moving facial bones.

    The product you linked looks like pose expressions to me, together with some adjustment morphs. The expression themselves don't look like a custom sculpt morph to me but I could be wrong.

  • TogireTogire Posts: 414

    To know if a product has custom morphs for expression, just look at the product "readme" (directly available on the product page with the "daz deals" add-ons). In the readme, you have a link to the file list and you can see if expressions are custom by counting the number of files in the "/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/...".

    I always do that for any product (and honestly most of the time I avoid like plague custom expressions, as they tend to degrade largely the loading time of characters).

    Besides that, you should have a look at BlueJaunte characters. They always have very nice smile morphs (and fantastic skins). https://www.daz3d.com/bluejaunte

  • RaketeRakete Posts: 91

    The suggestion to look for files in the morphs/ directory is good, but I don't think it really always applies. I just checked this product cause I have it: https://www.daz3d.com/v-100-expressions-the-gold-collection-for-genesis-8-female

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/72097/file_list

    In its file list there are plenty of files under the morphs/ directory, but the sliders of that product don't control any actual sculpted morphs, its all just erc frozen properties.

    I've been searching for expressions that specifically mention Z-Brush or that they use sculpted morphs in their descriptions. The best ones seem to be the ones from Alfan that Fauvist already mentioned. These expressions by P3Design also mention that they are "refined in ZBrush":

    https://www.daz3d.com/every-day-emotions-for-genesis-81-female

    https://www.daz3d.com/moody-collection-for-genesis-8-and-81-females

     

     

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