Heels on everything!
ChallyII
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For goodness sake, will content artists please, please stop putting heels on everything for V6. Please? Is there anything for those of us who don't want endless renders of tottering heels and asymmetric cocktail dresses that have been too near the scissors?
I'm looking at the newest stuff released for V6 and I'd really, really like to like that huntress get-up, except that I'd hate to go creeping around in the woods in stiletto heels. And every time there's something new for V6, it's either a skimpy dress or a fantasy outfit with silly shoes. Where are the outfits for adventurous female characters who don't want to turn a heel and be carried as soon as they step off the pavement?
Seriously- flat soles, please. Even if it's just a morph dial. Please?
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Maybe just one pair of good fantasy boots and everybody just include a texture that matches their outfit?
You can always pose the foot with the boot to the angle you want, hide the body and send the result to hexagon and shorten the heel and make that your morph.
I've read conflicting info on high heels, but most seem to think they were developed in the 1600's and worn by men. Some say it was a status symbol or fashion statement, if there is any difference there. Some say it was a matter of practicality, as most places didn't have sidewalks and paved streets, walking in mud was an issue. The heels were supposed to help that. Some say the 'less affluent subordinates' started wearing them, so the high society men took that, got rid of their heels and made women wear them. Yes, it was worse for women in the 1600s.
Anyway, one could argue that high heels on the Huntress is proper attire, if the outfit fits into the time frame of the 1600s.
here is one option for that idea
http://www.daz3d.com/flat-boots-2-for-genesis-2-female-s
Even though usually render females with heels, the higher the better and I eagerly await any new heel release, I agree that some fantasy outfits could do without heels, LOL.
heels on everything... lol
I saw this title and immediately thought about a surreal image theme idea
I'd like to ask for more heels. Not too high though, 8 to 10 cm (scale height) is tall enough to look sexy and elegant. Much taller is just slutty and cheap. And please, no more platforms, they where ridiculous in the seventies and are even more idiotic now.
Greetings,
Personally I'm a fan of kitten heels (3-4cm), but almost nobody makes those so I'd need to do as MM3dia suggests.
The 'Heels Everywhere' (see attached(1)) approach is one taken by certain 3D artists; for better boots by that same artist, I might suggest looking at, of all things, the Hipster Librarian boots. They seem fantasy-ish, despite the promo world setting, and are very reasonable boots.
For the fun of it, I threw them onto a character, in a little more fantasy-ish outfit/setting in attached(2).
-- Morgan
nice girls don't wear cha cha heels
Any fans of Dawn Davenport
Paved streets? Yeah, with asphalt. That softens in the summer heat. AND your heels sink in and you get stuck. No kidding.
Usually just one heel gets stuck and you can work your way out of it. But I remember one horrible time in Manhattan walking arm in arm with my then beau. Both of my heels got stuck crossing 6th Avenue but he didn't notice and kept walking. I was pulled forward with my feet stuck behind me. Yeah, you can picture it. Until he finally realized I was yelling at him. If I had let go of his arm I would have been flat on my face on the street.
What's that old saying about walking in someone else's shoes? ::ducking::
My understanding was that the heels had something to do with stirrups originally. So probably not that high at first. But they denoted that one could afford a horse.
Pattens were around quite early, and they were designed to lift you out of the muck. But pattens are platforms, not heels. And they may get used to cross a farm yard, but the extreme ones were designed for pavement. City streets were filthy.
By the time you get to the 1600s and later people who rode had riding boots, and heels were worn to dress up. I suspect that the point then as now was to show off a well-turned calf. The Beaus were every bit as vain as the Belles, and were in more of a position to show off their legs,.
(ETS: you wouldn't get me wearing high heels on cobblestones.)
Yes!! Heels everywhere!! To quote Miley, "Everybody's in stilettos. I guess I never got the memo."
The heel thing makes me crazy. I can appreciate highly impractical, bare-midriff "armor" as much as the next person, but my suspension of disbelief flies out the window when I realize she needs to keep her bare belly away from swords while wearing 4" spike-heeled boots. She'd be better off barefoot!
BTW, my kids just went to a YMCA camp where they did horseback riding, and they were (as noted by JOdel) required to have boots with heels for the stirrups, lol. This also irritated me because I had to buy boots for my son that he will likely never wear again!
That's got to be an American thing, with heels on riding boots. You won't find a pair of British ridng boots with heels, and I used to get scolded if I turned up to take a horse out hacking wearing my cowboy boots. http://www.doversaddlery.com/riding-boots-chaps/c/2000/
I've seen a few boots with heel height morphs. That might be worth doing. My digital ladies just don't do heels, though. Heels must sell though, if so many content creators just go with them. Must be a love or hate thing.
But I do wince when I see high heel battle scenes in the gallery.
As much as I like Dumor 3D's content, I have to say I'm astounded by his attempt at an historical justification of stiletto heels on an outfit called 'nomadic huntress'. The 17th Century is certainly a neglected period of history, but I'd never before considered that women of the period may have been stalking through the woods in search of their elusive prey, clad in tottering spike-heeled boots.
Look, I like well-turned calves and high heels as much as the next man, but there's a time and a place and a context. If I want to do a render of a cocktail party or a fashion catwalk, I'll happily reach for the high heels and tiny dresses and I'll be spoiled for choice. If I want to do something more adventurous or dangerous, what then?
I can understand when people roll their eyes at battle-scenes involving glamazons in 6-inch heels, but if you're trying to create a fighte scene with female characters as well as male, you're a little stuck for options. Either you mess around with trans-maps and morph dials and try to hide the heels, or you send all the fighters to the same shoe shop and hope the fact that all the girls are wearing the same boots doesn't detract from your final image.
Or you accept the hand the content artists have dealt you, and produce something that looks like a Korean MMO.
DAZ studio is supposed to enable creativity, but I find the available options rather stifling. Want a Hoplite, an archer or a commando? It'd better be male, or wearing thigh-high stiletto boots. Want a sexy secretary or a socialite in an asymmetric cocktail dress with stripper sandals? That's fine- you can have as many of those as you want.
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Eh; I think he was having a little laugh with it.There are a ton of boots out there that are either perfectly functional, or can be made functional with a little work. If you really have a large cast of female characters, they can pretty easily be shod in ways that work out just fine. It's fun to laugh at particularly inappropriate heels when they come out, but it's all in fun.
I checked my own library, and I hit 18 boot-like things without heels before I got to the 'F's under Footwear in Smart Content with G2F selected.
...and that's without expending even the little bit of energy to eliminate the heels from other outfits. Or non-smart-content (e.g. non-DAZ content). Or convertible boots (which even work better without heels!)...
I giggle and enjoy mocking heeled outfits for going into the woods, or on cobblestones, or just in general, as much as most folks, but it's just in fun. The reality is that there's plenty of non-heeled outfits for all brands of characters, and even more if you're willing to put in the effort to make stuff work.
-- Morgan
One could also argue, that those wearing heels in that time frame, are not tottering around in the woods or in battle, but rather tottering around in courtyards or in halls, so they make no sense in an adventure outfit.
People have been wearing heels for a while. The Romans used to wear them because their streets were so dirty. Chinese and others as well. Obviously not everyone had the luxury or could wear them for day to day work
I honestly don't like them or posing them. But would find it a refreshing change to see. A male high heeled shoe. Perhaps somethin Louis the 14th might wear
...or the Beatles (back in the 60s). Actually had a pair of "Beatle Boots", and they were tricky to walk in at first considering the normal "dress up" shoes of the day were loafers or Oxfords that maybe had 1/2" heels.
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As to spiked heels that are part of female adventure/action wear, it has often caused me to not buy clothing sets I otherwise would have liked as the more "normal" footwear I had didn't match very well.Yeah, there is autofit, but it is often hit or miss (usually miss) when it comes to using it on footwear.
I can just imagine poor Leela trying to ditch a Serbian patrol on the potholed streets and back alleys of Zagreb during a rainy night while wearing "combat" boots with 6 inch spike heels. The story would have a very quick and unfortunate ending.