Installing Vladimir (The Vampire)
MJ007
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Hello all,
I am having diffuty seeing the morphs in M4 when attempting to install the Vladimir (the vampire) morph set. I tried searching the forums, but apparently there's another (and more recent) product called Vladimir that not giving me the search result i require. Can someone please give me the breakdown of how to install these morphs?
Thanks in advance!
-MJ
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this one: https://www.daz3d.com/vladimir ?
It's a M4 figure so it works like an old Poser content: search product inside your Smart Content, select a M4 figure in the scene, and click on Assets with INJ command (they will add morph to your M4). To remove them click on REM assets (M4 selected).
Tried that. For some reason thats not working. I also read in the description that i have to run some sorta script (.BAT file) and i did that as well and still im not getting anything.
-MJ
Try look this:
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/42153/what-is-exp-technology
If you use the Power Loader, you have to check "Generate ExP Files" and have Vladimir selected in the list, or just do All Listed Products (Vladimir uses Michael 4 as a base). If not using Power Loader, you need to use a file explorer to go to "Runtime\Libraries\!DAZ" folder and run "DzCreateExPFiles-M4.bat".
Ok, doing this does EXACTLY what? (I did this already and doing so had no visible effect so im not sure what this step did). And once you do this, what do you do next?
-MJ
That generates the morph injection channels and deltas for use on the figure. When loading Michael 4 with Power Loader, select Vladimir morphs, and Michael will load with the morphs ready to use. If just loading a simple Michael 4, go to "Runtime\Libraries\Pose\DAZ's Michael 4\Morph Injections" and apply "INJ Vladimir". To actually apply the morphs, look in the Parameters or Shaping tab under Morphs|Shapes for a Vladimir group. Dial him in...
Ok, so if im hearing you correctly, if I:
1) install Vladimir
2) run the "DzCreateExPFiles-M4.bat"
3) when i load M4 I should see an empty Vladimir group in my Parms tab. Correct?
If so, ive done steps 1 and 2 and do not see a Vladimir group in the neither the main nor the head. I see a Morphs++ and Hiro4 group (as those are the only ones ive installed). So i take it the .BAT file failed in doing what it needed to do to move forward. Correct?
-MJ
After Step 2, check if you have the generated morphs in "\Runtime\Libraries\!DAZ\Michael 4\Deltas\Vladimir". There should be 5 InjDeltas and 5 RemDeltas. The group (under top level Michael 4/Morphs|Shapes, not the head) won't exist yet. You need to inject the Vladimir morphs into Michael 4 as described above, then you should see the group.
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Ok, the 10 morphs (5 INJ and 5 REM) are there as you described.
So does this mean Step 2 succeeded and I can go to the next step?
If so, please detail what EXACTLY the next step is?
Is it loading M4, selecting the entire figure, go to the Pose directory and select INJ Vladimir and i should see a group under M4 in the parms tab labelled "Vladimir"?
If so, Ive done exactly that and theres no Vladimir group nowhere.
-MJ
I want to also note... on my system, when i load M4, in the parms tab, under "Morphs | Shapes", there is a Morphs++ and Hiro4 group already there, but the actual options are greyed out. I have to actually INJ those morphs to see them. So i thought the same would apply with Vladimir that a group would be present when i loaded M4 but just have empty morphs until i actually INJ them.
Should that not be the case?
-MJ
Yes, that would indicate Step 2 completed. Maybe. Check if there are many (45 to be exact) sets of three files in "Runtime\Libraries\!DAZ\Michael 4\" in various sub-folders (one set for each node) containing "ps_mr506_DAZ" (Chnnls, ERC, Grps). All these files work together to add the morph channels to M4, create the sliders and create the group in the parameters (all hidden except the top one). Next, apply the "INJ Vladimir.pz2" and you should then be able to see the Vladimir group. It works the same way as Hiro 4, Freak 4, Morphs++, Creature Creator, etc.
I do recall that you use an older version of Studio, so maybe the other groups are visible but disabled until injected, newer versions of Studio hide them. I can see them if I show hidden properties even if they are not injected. If there is a setting to show hidden properties, do that. Type Vlad in the filter box in the Parameters or Shaping tab and see if there are any morphs or groups that show up. (Not sure if your version supports that).
A couple other things to check: in the folder "Runtime\Libraries\!DAZ\Michael 4",
edit the "M4BODYChnnls.pz2" to see if it contains the line:
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:BODY:00-ps_mr506_DAZ_Chnnls.pz2"
Next, in file "M4ERC.pz2", look for this line:
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:BODY:00-ps_mr506_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
Then, in file "M4BODYGrps.pz2" search for "groupnode Vladimir"
If they are all present, I do not know why Vlad does not appear.
Okay, I decided to go through the steps myself from scratch. The only files that are created are the ones in "Runtime\Libraries\!DAZ\Michael 4". All those M4*chnnls and M4*grps and the one M4ERC file consolidate all the installed data files into one place that the figure loads up. The base .cr2 loads all channels and groups, preparing the figure for the morph injections. By default the M4 Base morphs are always loaded, and any channels and groups that are present (generated by the .bat file). The other files (InjDeltas, RemDeltas, the *ps_mr506_DAZ*) are actually installed with the product and are used to generate the files that actually load them where they should go. It is done that way so that the base figure doesn't have to be changed all the time. It loads a standard set of files that have all the added morphs for all the body parts.
When you run the DzCreateExPFiles-M4.bat" file, all the M4*.pz2 files in the "Runtime\Libraries\!DAZ\Michael 4" folder are regenerated (they should all have the date of the last run). From there, the Michael4.cr2 loads them, whatever they contain. These are the files that must contain the Vladimir instructions, as I indicated in the previous post. Those are just three of the files involved, but if one is good, I assume all the others are, too.
Sorry for the confusion, it has been a while since I looked at the exact process.
Show Hidden Properties is checked.
I attached a few files to show the Vladmir content files are there.
Also shown is a render of M4 with Hiro4 tab expanded. As you can see his Hiro4 morphs are present, but blank. When i goto the Pose directory and select Inj-Hiro4 these same fields activate.. I expected the process with Vladimir would be identical, but when i load M4, there is no Vladimir Group.
Any idea what going on or what im doing wrong?
-MJ
Sorry, I went off on a bit of a tangent at first. See my two previous posts. Those are the real files to check ("Runtime\Libraries\!DAZ\Michael 4" - M4BODYChnnls.pz2, M4ERC.pz2, M4BODYGrps.pz2), all the others are installed with the product. The files used by Vladimir in "Runtime\Libraries\!DAZ\Michael 4" must have the lines to include Vladimir's group, channels and controllers when loading Michael 4 (I give three examples, one of each, to see if they are, in fact, present. If one is good, the others should be, too. All the other files involved have the controllers hidden, but do have data). If the lines to include Vladimir are not present, the group, channels, and controllers will not exist, and the deltas (morphs) will have nowhere to go when they get injected.
I checked all three files mentioned and to be honest, none of them have any relevant info pertaining to Vladimir... however, i dont see anything in there relevant to Morphs++ or Hiro4 either, which i know is being loaded..
-MJ
edit the "M4BODYChnnls.pz2" to see if it contains the line:
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:BODY:00-ps_mr506_DAZ_Chnnls.pz2"
No. Only line it contains is:
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:BODY:00-ps_pe074inj_Chnnls.pz2"
Next, in file "M4ERC.pz2", look for this line:
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:BODY:00-ps_mr506_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
No. It only has the following lines:
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:neck:04-ps_pe074_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:head:05-ps_pe074_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:eyeBrow:06-ps_pe074_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:lowerJaw:10-ps_pe074_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:tongueBase:11-ps_pe074_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:tongue01:12-ps_pe074_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:tongue02:13-ps_pe074_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:tongue03:14-ps_pe074_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:tongue04:15-ps_pe074_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:tongue05:16-ps_pe074_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:tongueTip:17-ps_pe074_DAZ_ERC.pz2"
Then, in file "M4BODYGrps.pz2" search for "groupnode Vladimir"
Nope. Its only has the following lines:
groupNode DAZ
groupNode Community
-MJ
So, for example, M4BodyChnnls.pz2 does not have a line like this:
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:BODY:00-ps_pe076_Chnnls.pz2" (for Hiro 4)
or a line like this:
readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4:BODY:00-ps_mr477_DAZ_Chnnls.pz2" (for Morphs++)
Nope. Not in the fies in the directory you detailed above.
Then they must be embedded in the .cr2 permanently. The Michael4.cr2 normally loads all these channels and ERC controllser and groups with "readscript" commands. A stock Michael4.cr2 has 133 "readscript" commands inside, 2 for each node (chnnls and grps) and three more, M4ERC.pz2, InjectDeltas.M4BaseAll.pz2 and M4LnkPrms.pz2.
if your Michael4 loads with Hiro4 and Morphs++, they must be being loaded directly with other "readscript" commands or spliced in. How many "readscript" commands in your Michael4.cr2?
It's getting late. I'll leave you with another approach.
When you run DzCreateExPFiles-M4.bat, do the modified dates of the .pz2 files in "Runtime\Libraries\!DAZ\Michael 4" change to the time it is run? If not, something is wrong. If the channels and groups are not being added, something is wrong. Do you maybe have another version of Michael4 somewhere that might be interfering? Another library perhaps? Maybe a leftover folder somewhere?
Over 100... and I stopped counting.
No reference to Hiro4 tho.
Don't know if this helps (Mac user). This is what I get when I load M4:
With M4 root figure selected:
That's PowerLoader - there should be a package for the main figure, which installs the base cionfiguration, plus an extra for each ExP set, which adds the metadata so you get thumbnails and can select individual morphs.
Ah, solved by the light of a new day.
You shouldn't need to run as admin, that sounds like a more serious issue - unless your content directory is in the application folder, which is not a good idea.
You shouldn't need to run as admin, that sounds like a more serious issue - unless your content directory is in the application folder, which is not a good idea.