G8M body hairs to G8.1M

Hi all. How can I make G8M hairs (chest hairs, body hairs) compatible for G8.1M?

Thank you for you help....

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,824

    Does it use a Geometry Shell or does it layer ont top of the basic maps? In the latter case which UV set is the 8.1 figure using on the tosor/head surfaces - Surfaces pane Editor tab, select the surfaces, and check their UV Set button.

  • ledom30ledom30 Posts: 13

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Does it use a Geometry Shell or does it layer ont top of the basic maps? In the latter case which UV set is the 8.1 figure using on the tosor/head surfaces - Surfaces pane Editor tab, select the surfaces, and check their UV Set button.

    Hi, I would use Dain hairy chest, or Underbelly hairy chest. I think it use a Geometry Shell.

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,885
    edited June 2022

    Neither Dain nor Underbelly use geometry shells. Dain and Underbelly use strand hair. They should just fit automatically. Just make sure your character is selected in the scene, then double click on the hair preset.

    That said, I tried both Dain and Underbelly chest hair on Bruce for G8.1M and on Devon G8.1M. I don't know why, but they're both barely visible on render on both characters; if you're not very close, you can't see them at all. Also true for the chest hair that comes with Kjaer 8. No idea what's going on.

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  • ledom30ledom30 Posts: 13

    vwrangler said:

    I don't know why, but they're both barely visible on render on both characters; if you're not very close, you can't see them at all. Also true for the chest hair that comes with Kjaer 8. No idea what's going on.

    Well, that's exactly my problem. it's that we don't see the hairs in the rendering. and I don't know how to make them visible... crying

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,885
    edited June 2022

    I think some sort of bug has been introduced into the dForce strand hair, but I don't know what it could be. Below are Devon G8.1M and Dain G8M side by side with Dain's chest hair on both, as can be seen in the scene menu to the side. This is a screen capture of a render -- the "Render" window title can be seen at the top. The chest hair has been set to the heaviest density and darkest color on both Dain and Devon; Dain looks positively furry, and Devon looks like he doesn't have anything there at all.

    dain chest hair issues

    It probably needs a bug report, but I don't exactly know what to say on it. (EDIT: Ticket has been filed. Heaven only knows what they'll make of it; this is one of the more odd errors I've seen.)

    Just as an experiment, I tried using the body hair from Jepe's Roderick on Devon.That hair, like Dain's, is strand-based, but it is NOT dForce. That hair shows up in scene and on render without any issues. (Apart from the fact that it was made specifically for Roderick, so it isn't in quite the right places on Devon, as Roderick is both wider and taller, and making it fit is a pain in the rear.) So whatever is going on, it's specific to dForce strand-based body hair.

     

    A question: do you have Michael 8.1? the body hair that comes with him works just fine on any G8.1 Male. It's not as dense as Dain's, but it does work.

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  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,337

    One figure is shorter than the other. Might be a morph or ? making the hair shorter as well. If one dials out Devon and the hair becomes visible that may well be the issue.

  • ledom30ledom30 Posts: 13

    Thanks for your reply and the bug report. I will see which character I will be able to use the hairs of ;-) thank you.

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,885

    Catherine3678ab said:

    One figure is shorter than the other. Might be a morph or ? making the hair shorter as well. If one dials out Devon and the hair becomes visible that may well be the issue.

    I've tried the dForce strand hair from Dain, Underbelly and Kjaer on various 8.1 males. It doesn't show up on render on any of them, regardless of relative size.

    And, as it turns out, if you put Michael 8.1's body hair on a Genesis 8 Male, it ALSO goes invisible on render.(You also have to do the Scene Identification thing to keep Autofit from invoking.) So there's something about dForce body hair, at least, that seems to be generation-specific. I can't imagine why, but it looks like that may be the case. We'll see what they say on the ticket.

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,885

    According to the response I got on the ticket, that 8.0 dForce body hair doesn't work on 8.1 is a known compatibility issue, and probably not something they plan to address at the current time.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    vwrangler said:

    According to the response I got on the ticket, that 8.0 dForce body hair doesn't work on 8.1 is a known compatibility issue, and probably not something they plan to address at the current time.

    That is no answer... 

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,885

    PerttiA said:

    vwrangler said:

    According to the response I got on the ticket, that 8.0 dForce body hair doesn't work on 8.1 is a known compatibility issue, and probably not something they plan to address at the current time.

    That is no answer... 

    It's the answer they have, nonetheless.

    What puzzles me is, what's different about body hair and head hair? There doesn't seem to be an incompatibility issue with the dForce head hair that exists. I wonder if the skull cap that they all use prevents this issue from happening. 

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