how hard can it be?
WillowRaven
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how hard can it be to find a plain circlet? just round and mostly flat, preferably for genesis 8 male ...
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could you use a primative?
If I recall, I found one by clicking around on some of the (legal) free sites. It was pretty old, but simple enough to manually adjust and parent to a G3/G8 head.
Maybe this could be used by hiding some geometry:
https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-bliaut-for-genesis-8-females
Like a halo?
Or like a crown?
Edit... I made something...
Perhaps something like this?... it's more or less the first thing came up when I Googled "Circlet"... except this has no jewels... but you said "plain circlet".
The file below is not centered properly, it's scaled a little stupid... it's close enough for someone who has been drinking a couple of beers... (alcohol make math skills go poof) and it was made to fit a G2 figure, which was all I had loaded into a preexisting scene in the modeling program.
Also, it has two material zones, but no mapping and the gold material was just applied for the crappy test render.
But you are good at DAZ stuff, so you can scale it and whatever else if it's useful...
The zip file has the OBJ, MTL (and a jpeg of the above image for reference)...
Good luck
Wow, @McGyver, awesome! You know how the saying goes: a man should in his life plant a tree, build a house and sell a prop at DAZ Shop? Come on, create one product for the shop, we will celebrate you :-)
Why sell? Why not offer it for free? Much more generous, surely?
No reason for it to be lower quality just because it's free.
Regards,
Richard.
Of course, and @McGyver already has donated many freebees to the community. But why not get that "badge of honour" of being an official DAZ PA? We can congratulate and he still can continue to create freebees after that :-)
Sadly it's hard to do both unless you have a lot of spare time and your production schedule is open.
Oh, I thought it was possible just to get one single product approved ("badge of honour") without having to continue to produce more items for DAZ. Would have been a fun event, the forumites reviewing the item before it is sent in for approval... If that isn't possible, thats of course a far more complicated decision to make.
There is no set rule as to how often you upload a product but they would like you to upload at least a few a year and depending on the products they can take a lot of time to produce. If your not in this to pay bills and it's a hobby type thing then yeah it's possible to do both, sorry for the confusion.
Thank you very much for the compliment, but the thing I made isn't a very complicated thing... it's just a profile section lathed around a path traced along a cross section of the figure's head... I don't even know if it's remotely useable for the OP... it actually took more time to look up how to attach the file (which I never found, I just realized that the last time I did that, I used a zip, not an obj, which the forum won't except) than it did to make, so it's actually not a very big deal.
While it would be cool to sell something at the DAZ store, I don't think my models are up to DAZ standards and probably never will be.
Its really more fun to just make freebies than to invest in all the sophisticated tools and techniques needed to make sellable content.
But thank you once again for the compliment.
Lies!
Don't believe Frank! ...
Once you be come a PA, you are taken away to the Content Mines!
PAs are chained to boulders in DAZ's content mines in Utah and forced to mine each and every polygon they use... then they are made to forge each and every pair of sexy underwear or stiletto heels deep in the bowels of earth until they have a decent size library...
They are even cloned in most cases because the originals got crushed in a mine collapse, succumbed to the harsh conditions or were eaten by C.H.U.D.s...
You ever wonder why most PAs aren't active on the forums?... they are clones of clones of clones and have long ago forgotten how to communicate... Only a select few like Jack Tomalin or RawArt can still write, and thats only because the top PAs get the newer Clone-A-Tron.
FREE THE PAs !!!
Join PETPA... People for the Ethical Treatment of Published Artists, and help us liberate these poor souls from the polygon dust and C.H.U.D. infested hell they must endure every day!
(If this doesn't convince you, play that Sarah McLachlan song "Angel", from the ASPCA commercials while you read that and I think you'll see things differently... or you'll give money to the ASPCA... either one is okay)
Note: For those not in the US... The ASPCA is an animal rights advocacy group that rescues dogs, cats and sometimes a walrus or two... I think it stands for Angry Strangers Protecting Cool Animals, or something like that...but they have this heartbreaking commercial featuring really sad dogs that will either make you throw yourself out a window or run off free abused puppies... it's a very powerful commercial and I recommend only watching it in a windowless room or on the first floor... and if you do see it (on YouTube or somewhere) and can picture these poor PAs make sure you have lots of tissues handy.
@McGyver what prompted me to make the suggestion was how fast you created that asset for the op and a comment you posted some time ago + of course that you publish freebees. A product for DAZ of course would take much more time if you don't invest in like zbrush or substancepainter. But as there wouldn't be a deadline, why not? Still after what @frank0314 explained here, I understand that publishing at DAZ demands at least out of fairness a certain kind of continuous commitment, so things are not as easy as I imagined. Just don't tell yourself that you couldn't reach that standard expected from DAZ. If thats the only thing holding you back, I am sure the forumites will cheer you up until you reach that finish line!
It is intriguing, but still there is a lot of work to making it a paid product... and my stuff is very eclectic or quirky...
I once had a freebie WIP thread a couple of years ago and only a handful of people commented... my guess is because my stuff is more props and less clothing or characters, it's not that interesting in general... this is a perfect example...
That's not textured yet, but there are tons of stuff just like that out there for sale, why would anyone pay for that particular thing, when there are far more well known artists selling similar models of a known higher quality... it's more fun to not have to buy all the cutting edge programs and tech to keep up with people who went to school for that or have been doing it for many more years than me...
If I'm selling as a hobby and not intending or expecting to make any real money at it, then I'm locking up the model behind a paywall.
Since most artists prefer to avoid free models, I'm not really taking away business from anyone professional who needs it, and as a freebie it helps people who have less money to spend.
Honestly, I'd be happy getting 50¢ for some of my more complicated models, selling them as "bargain models" (like when you get an "outlet store quality" Tommy Pigfinger shirt at the outlet malls... it's Tommy Pigfinger brand, but it made only for the outlet store, so it's not exactly the same quality)... because at a lower price that would make it more accessible to those on a budget and that would add up to a few bucks to put towards better tools, but that's not a DAZ thing, so ShareCG free is the best option... plus I'm returning in some indirect and wonky fashion to the 3D community for the knowledge people have shared with me over the years.
That sounds very sappy, but it works for now... who knows... maybe when I've sold all my livers and potatoes are going for like $300 apiece, which seems not so incredible a prospect, I might need to try and sell stuff if I intend to keep 3Ding... but by then everyone on a budget will have sold all their livers too and be far too poor to buy my crap...
Its a vicious liverless circle, it is...
I really appreciated your freebies McGyver when I was new, in 2010 I used your bridge and thought it wonderful
it still is BTW but I own a crapload of DAZ stuff I don't render also
one thing about paid products is I have utterly no guilt in not crediting the creators but freebies I feel obligated to so there is also that
@McGyver the PA 3dlab opened a thread here in commons about his new product and got 2(!) posts as reaction:
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/574426/modular-medieval-ruin-commercial#latest
So that happens to the best... For that above environment you would still need to create some vegetation (blender: Sapling Tree Gen, ivy gen, ) and the ground could be textured with gimp and https://www.daz3d.com/muelsfell-multilayer-iray-terrain-shader which can be used as merchant resource and replaces substance painter completely.
But i guess you know that already. I only was opposed to the "I am not good enough" argument. I personally wouldn't care about sales' figures, as long as I could tell my friends: look, theres my product on DAZ, I made it big time, LOL!
ROFL!! You are too much. There have been issues with attaching files in the forums of late that we've reported last week and I just sent in an update cause it's gotten worse.
Uh huh.... the day I go to upload pictures of sad abused PAs chained to boulders, covered in polygon dust, just happens to be the day the forum image uploading capability breaks... a shockingly coincidental coincidence, wouldn't you say?
I'm totally on that wavelength myself right now. I started out a few months ago with the same basic question about some props I couldn't find. Just for the fun of it, I'm recreating some much-loved action figures from the 60s-70s: Best of the West by Marx. In some ways they were better than GI Joe; in other ways not but they were fantastic toys. Each figure had a ton of accessories, and some of those are available in various stores and free sites. But not everything. I thought, "How hard could it be to make a frying pan of the right shape?" I was pretty good with D-formers etc. So I made one (but it's based on a Renderosity freebie so not sure if I could share it even if somebody wanted it). And then I thought, "How hard could it be to make a rifle bag for the 1873 rifle (https://www.daz3d.com/old-west-firearms-vol-2) that goes onto the Horse 2 Western Saddle?" I'm almost done with that one, but I discovered it's kinda hard lol... especially because I designed this one and a pair of spurs thinking maybe I can offer as freebies when they're done - so I want them to be as easy as possible for someone to use who didn't create them from scratch themselves. So I have to figure out how to package a .duf, get the poly count down, work out the best rigging, figure out how to let people know it's available, etc. So far I'm just seeing what's possible for me on my own system. After that I can think about sharing it.
At this point, one day soon I'm gonna bite the bullet and learn a modeling platform. Until now they're all just Daz primitives. I know, I know. Daz isn't designed for this. But since I have nothing else to compare it to and I'm not ready to face yet another few months at the bottom of a software learning curve (...or cliff), I don't care if it's harder than some other thing. Hard work builds character and makes you appreciate the work you'll save when you eventually upgrade. I'm just as intrigued now to see whether Daz CAN do it at all. I think it can and I'm going to prove it lol
@john_antkowiak Wow, modeled completely in DAZ? Thats impressive!
Thanks, mding! It's been a fun one ))
That's pretty impressive to have done in DS... if you can do that in DAZ, you definitely can learn to use a modeling program... you should pick up Blender, there are millions of tutorials out there, it's free and pretty much as capable as any high end modeling software.
I will one day, but I'm in no hurry. In the last three years I've taught myself 3-4 different software platforms and I'm kind of burned out lol
bite the bullet and go totally wacky with Carrara .... we have biscuits
lolol
BTW @WillowRaven have you been able to use McGyver's handcrafted circlet or are you still searching?
Lol ... I was just enjoying the side path the thread was taking, lol. I haven't had a chance to try McGyver's circlet yet, but I hope to today :) I'm just amazed how few plain bands are out there.
I don't require credit for my freebies. Don't get me wrong - it's nice when it happens - but I feel like that's unrealistic for people to remember everything they used in a render or animation, including my stuff...lol. Let 'em just create without having to think about every little thing they used ;).
In another thread this very old clothing resurfaced:
https://www.daz3d.com/shepherd-for-m3
Just to add to the collection...
@AllenArt
Your answer should be pinned on every post where new users complain about the lack of notes regarding items used in promo renders (like I did years ago).