AOBB's Tough Guy based on Robert Mitchum head morph for G8.1M. No materials nor textures.

AOBBAOBB Posts: 957
edited July 2022 in Freebies

Well, some wishes do come true. I received a request for a Robert Mitchum likeness a while ago from @ShadowBox24 and here he is !

 

 

Assets used in promo images:

Vintage Male Hair for G8M

LI Crew Cut hair for G8M

Bold Brows (Avg05, Avg07)

Lashes Utilities for G2,3,8F and M

H&C Checkered Shirt Outfit for G8M

Natural Eyes II for G8.1M

BOSS Pro Light Set

Skin material is the base material and textures that come with G8.1M

Noncommercial use only!

As usual, please post your images with this head morph in this thread - I love to see your work! You guys have such imagination and sense of fun! smiley

Enjoy!

AOBB

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Comments

  • michaeltoomichaeltoo Posts: 219

    Very good likeness, well done.smiley

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    Thank you, michaeltoo! smiley

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,032

    Super job, but your getting his likeness so near I think confirms my suspicion the the DAZ base models foreheads are too short, I think. I don't have a very artistic eye though so maybe I am wrong. 

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    @nonesuch00 - yes, the DAZ base models' heads aren't very realistic. It's always kind of irritating to reshape them, so the proportions are more accurate. In Mitchum's case, his eyebrows are so high on his forehead that the part of the forehead above them seems relatively short. 

    Thanks for liking the sculpt and pushing me to do a better job! yes

      

     

    In the photo on the right Robert Mitchum's eyes look dark brown. In reality they were indigo blue. I also gave him more of a squint, which would be his normal expression (closer to the picture on the left). I compensated for the shortening of his face in the right photo. It takes a lot of photos to figure out the real shape of someone's face/head...

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,032

    AOBB said:

    @nonesuch00 - yes, the DAZ base models' heads aren't very realistic. It's always kind of irritating to reshape them, so the proportions are more accurate. In Mitchum's case, his eyebrows are so high on his forehead that the part of the forehead above them seems relatively short. 

    Thanks for liking the sculpt and pushing me to do a better job! yes

      

     

    In the photo on the right Robert Mitchum's eyes look dark brown. In reality they were indigo blue. I also gave him more of a squint, which would be his normal expression (closer to the picture on the left). I compensated for the shortening of his face in the right photo. It takes a lot of photos to figure out the real shape of someone's face/head...

    His eyebrows are raised as high as he can get them. He is also very slack-jawed in both pictures. I wonder if he habitually did those expressions or he was taught? It did seem common in early Hollywood, like they were taught to do that.

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    I believe they were definitely taught to do that. For example if you check out Marilyn Monroe's photos, she has her eyebrows jacked up as high as it gets, eyelids are half-closed (she apparently suffered from ptosis) and her mouth is open in virtually every photo. That caused me real problems in establishing the shape of her mouth, jaw shape and eye shape when in neutral position. A very unnatural look, but it apparently worked for her!  I found out while working on her likeness, that all of her expressions and her makeup were masterpieces of marketing her "image". 

    It seems that those same techniques were used by men in Hollywood as well.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,032

    AOBB said:

    I believe they were definitely taught to do that. For example if you check out Marilyn Monroe's photos, she has her eyebrows jacked up as high as it gets, eyelids are half-closed (she apparently suffered from ptosis) and her mouth is open in virtually every photo. That caused me real problems in establishing the shape of her mouth, jaw shape and eye shape when in neutral position. A very unnatural look, but it apparently worked for her!  I found out while working on her likeness, that all of her expressions and her makeup were masterpieces of marketing her "image". 

    It seems that those same techniques were used by men in Hollywood as well.

    I see what you mean. In her case for the eye brows I think they were painted on high, because I see no forehead creases, but the rest of what you said applies. I still think she has the cutest photos I've even seen. She and her photographers were great at what they did.

    I saw a short clip of Jane Russell in a 50s movie recently and oh my gosh, so gorgeously glamourous. I think maybe modern film resolution should be reduced and old Hollywood techniques be given a 2nd look, LOL!

  • ShadowBox24ShadowBox24 Posts: 184
    edited July 2022

    As Kate Bush would say: WOW, WOW, WOW, WOW!

    AOBB, What a pleasent surprise to be greeted by Mr Mitchum this morning and his likeness is sooo spot on ......LOVE THE EYESheart   Thank U & downloaded with love.

    Keep-Up the GOOD work!

     

    Much luv - Barbz

     

    Now, I have to find a good suit!.....LOL

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  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,744

    Great job on the head morph

     

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    @nonesuch00 - I've read somewhere that those forehead creases in Marilyn's photos where simply "photoshoped" out (I know, I know - of course they did it manually then, because there was no photoshop in the 50s/60s!). Still, I agree with you - Marilyn was as cute as a button and in the more candid photos, she had a childlike vulnerability that just grabs my heart. I also like the soft-focused look of old movies. It certainly helped conceal some physical flaws of the stars. laughwink I believe Jane Russell was in real life Robert Mitchum's next door neighbor and friend!

    @ShadowBox24 - please enjoy and you will find good suits here:

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-mi-two-piece-business-suit-for-genesis-8-and-81-males

    https://www.daz3d.com/trading-floor-outfit-for-genesis-3-male-s

    @FirstBastion - thank you! smiley

    Cheers,

    AOBB

  • ShadowBox24ShadowBox24 Posts: 184

    Hi AOBB,

    Well I finally finished Mr Tough Guy, Mr Robert Mitchum ..... I hope you like him.

     

    B

     

    Now I'm gonna try and upload my first image to gallery ....

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  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    Thanks for posting your render @Shadowbox24. He looks like one very happy tough guy. smiley

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,032

    AOBB said:

    @nonesuch00 - I've read somewhere that those forehead creases in Marilyn's photos where simply "photoshoped" out (I know, I know - of course they did it manually then, because there was no photoshop in the 50s/60s!). Still, I agree with you - Marilyn was as cute as a button and in the more candid photos, she had a childlike vulnerability that just grabs my heart. I also like the soft-focused look of old movies. It certainly helped conceal some physical flaws of the stars. laughwink I believe Jane Russell was in real life Robert Mitchum's next door neighbor and friend!

    @ShadowBox24 - please enjoy and you will find good suits here:

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-mi-two-piece-business-suit-for-genesis-8-and-81-males

    https://www.daz3d.com/trading-floor-outfit-for-genesis-3-male-s

    @FirstBastion - thank you! smiley

    Cheers,

    AOBB

    Yes, I forget they could edit film even way back then. In fact, I have an over 100 year old book of photos of various typically Tyrolean outdoor scenes I bought from my brother-in-law that are hand tinted to be color photos. I have to admire the painstaking patience and detail they endured to do that to so many photos all of which aren't no bigger than 4" x  7".

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    @nonesuch00 - I used to do photo retouching and restoration and I would colorize old photos - some from WWII. I was using of course scans of the photos and photoshop to do the colorizing but still it was hellish work - so time consuming. In the old days, just one slip of the hand, one color wrong chosen and the photo was ruined! What artistry did it take back then to get the colorizing right! That said, life was much "slower" years ago, so people could afford to take their time and be patient with what they were doing.

    I have to say though - I love Photoshop and that you can work on photos in a non-destructive manner. smiley

  • I'm going to post this one in the gallery, thought I'd put it here first...

     

     

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  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    Thank you, Shadowchaser! smileyyes

  • Thank you AOBB for sharing your great work!

    I know this has to be very time consuming. Your generosity is appreciated:)

  • lukon100lukon100 Posts: 792
    edited July 2022

    As an ammusing side note, I think I accidentally made a cartoonish/characature Robert Mitchum when I was goofing around with magnus1781's Humphry Bogart head morph.

    https://www.deviantart.com/luqu/art/Just-Say-No-To-The-Bird-910488875

    The guy on the right side in that picture.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,032

    lukon100 said:

    As an ammusing side note, I think I accidentally made a cartoonish/characature Robert Mitchum when I was goofing around with magnus1781's Humphry Bogart head morph.

    https://www.deviantart.com/luqu/art/Just-Say-No-To-The-Bird-910488875

    The guy on the right side in that picture.

    On the left, that looks more like Warren Beatty.

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    @lukon100 - Mitchum has such a characteristic head. You got right its sense of mass and the fact that his features look exagerrated. I must say that Mitchum's was the strangest head for me to work on up to date.

    @nonesuch00 - I detect some Bogie in the head on the left but not enough. 

  • Mark OREZMark OREZ Posts: 75
    edited July 2022

    While taking a pause (not really !) on the other image, couldn't resist to make another one.

    He told me something like that: "I'm the Tough Guy and I can think harder than you. But remember I wont (sur)render easilly"

     

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  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    Looks like Tough Guy rendered pretty good in this image, so I bet you'll get him to look good in the other render with Sweetheart as well! This hair really works much better for him, doesn't it? smiley

  • Mark OREZMark OREZ Posts: 75

    AOBB said:

    Looks like Tough Guy rendered pretty good in this image, so I bet you'll get him to look good in the other render with Sweetheart as well! This hair really works much better for him, doesn't it? smiley

    haha I'm laughing. Tough Guy agrees. He prefers this haircut and that's why he was on a bad mood during the last photo shoots. Thank you AOBB you're so kind and helpful.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,032

    Tough Guy looks like he just tried a dollop of Imperial Margarine! laugh Your render's very good.

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    Mark, you are so sweet... blushsmiley

    nonesuch00, you are so funny... laugh

  • Hi!!!  I just found you in the gallery with your more than perfect work of Marilyn Monroe.

    I start looking more of your work and you are giving freebie morphs....Goodness!!!  Thank you so much!!!

    I can hardly wait to look through your characters!

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    You are welcome, Jan_Scrapper. I hope you will have great fun creating renders with those freebies. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and everyone from the Freebies Forum! heart

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,032

    Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    Thank you, nonesuch00. Likewise! smiley

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