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RIP G2M - Lived fast, died young, left a good-looking corpse.

Three WishesThree Wishes Posts: 471
edited June 2015 in The Commons

Not gonna lie, I'm very impressed with the subtle facial morphs I'm seeing on Vicki 7. I'll probably grab the pro bundle once the intro discount activates. And I'll look forward to the month (or two, or three) that it takes G3M to roll out.

But it sure seems to me that G2M never really got a full amount of traction. I have a half-decent wardrobe for him, a few good hair styles, and maybe half a dozen favorite texture sets that I go back to over and over again.

I guess I'm spoiled by my memories of the M4 Era, a character for whom I have a humongous set of options in my runtime. It seems like the Genesis males never really quite get up to full speed before they're obsolesced. I'm hoping for a little more variety in the G3 male offerings, but we shall see. Meanwhile, yeah, V7's facial morphs have sold me, so it's kind of a bittersweet day overall to see a new generation rolling down the runway.

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  • WandWWandW Posts: 2,847
    edited June 2015

    Best thread title I've seen in a long time; too true!

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  • EnchantedPixieEnchantedPixie Posts: 478
    edited December 1969

    Hialrious title LOL....and so true !

  • GrazeGraze Posts: 418
    edited December 1969

    On the bright side, Minotaur 6 HD for Genesis 2 Male(s) should be Fast Grab priced soon. :)

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    dhtapp said:
    Not gonna lie, I'm very impressed with the subtle facial morphs I'm seeing on Vicki 7. I'll probably grab the pro bundle once the intro discount activates. And I'll look forward to the month (or two, or three) that it takes G3M to roll out.

    Maybe that's because they are now poses, to a 'skeleton', instead of morphs....

  • GhostofMacbethGhostofMacbeth Posts: 1,676
    edited December 1969

    He isn't dead yet :)

  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885
    edited December 1969

    GhostofMacbeth said:
    He isn't dead yet :)

    Nope. We have a good 2-3 months (minimum) before G3Male comes along, plus the usual couple of handfuls of things that will trickle out over the months following G3Male's release.

    Not expecting anything major in that time frame, of course. Just some cool stuff that was already underway when the switch to Genesis 3 hit. :)

  • Three WishesThree Wishes Posts: 471
    edited December 1969

    mjc1016 said:
    dhtapp said:
    Not gonna lie, I'm very impressed with the subtle facial morphs I'm seeing on Vicki 7. I'll probably grab the pro bundle once the intro discount activates. And I'll look forward to the month (or two, or three) that it takes G3M to roll out.

    Maybe that's because they are now poses, to a 'skeleton', instead of morphs....

    Whoa, that's actual bones and stuff? I downloaded Vicki 7 this afternoon but I haven't had the chance yet to set up a scene with her.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    Dem bones, dem bones, dem bones...

    Yeppers...

    g3ffacialbones.png
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  • JackFosterJackFoster Posts: 143
    edited December 1969

    The only bad thing about the facial expressions being controlled by bones is that, yet again, the previous generation's beards won't work on the new one with just autofit. Hopefully we'll get Unshaven 3 a bit sooner than right before Genesis 4 comes out. :-)

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    jwood331 said:
    The only bad thing about the facial expressions being controlled by bones is that, yet again, the previous generation's beards won't work on the new one with just autofit. Hopefully we'll get Unshaven 3 a bit sooner than right before Genesis 4 comes out. :-)

    I wonder how well the transfer utility would work, though...

  • JackFosterJackFoster Posts: 143
    edited June 2015

    mjc1016 said:
    jwood331 said:
    The only bad thing about the facial expressions being controlled by bones is that, yet again, the previous generation's beards won't work on the new one with just autofit. Hopefully we'll get Unshaven 3 a bit sooner than right before Genesis 4 comes out. :-)

    I wonder how well the transfer utility would work, though...

    I don't know. I couldn't get it to transfer the lower jaw bone to the original unshaven beard for G2M, so I'm not sure it would work for the second one on G3M. I'm not that proficient with it, though. If there's some option that makes it transfer all the bones, instead of just the typical ones, I haven't seen it.

    Edit: Actually, scratch that, I just got it to work. You have to make sure not to use any projection template when using transfer utility, and it will transfer all the bones.

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  • JackFosterJackFoster Posts: 143
    edited June 2015

    Actually, I was just completely wrong. It's actually really easy to get the new bones to work on unshaven 2. You can use autofit, just set the type to "none". I've never done that before, I usually use Full body or something, which doesn't work in this case. This is unshaven 2 on G3F.

    g3fbeard.jpg
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  • Bluebird 3DBluebird 3D Posts: 995
    edited December 1969

    Yeah.. I think G3M, when he is ready, is deserving of more attention in the wardrobe department than G2M received. I admit it! (Dumor will be happy I finally agreed with him on this. It has been a topic of many energetic discussions in the background.)

    I've got things on the list and in the line and will see what I can do on my part to help out with this.

    Meanwhile... jwood.. that screenshot made me snort coffee up my nose. I hope you are satisfied. :P

    ~Bluebird 3D

  • erik leemanerik leeman Posts: 262
    edited December 1969

    "So you guys think I'm dead? Don't think so!"

    : )

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  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited December 1969

    Mr Leong said:
    On the bright side, Minotaur 6 HD for Genesis 2 Male(s) should be Fast Grab priced soon. :)

    Heh. And I just picked up Minotaur a couple of days ago.

    To be frank about G2M, I actually disliked him. Took a couple of new characters to half change my mind. But, still, I've barely used him and still go back to Genesis and M4.

  • IkyotoIkyoto Posts: 1,159
    edited December 1969

    Dead? not for me.. heck.. I still use the original Mike

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    gianniiii - starts cpr - stayin alive stayin alive

  • IceEmpressIceEmpress Posts: 639
    edited December 1969

    Spit said:
    Mr Leong said:
    On the bright side, Minotaur 6 HD for Genesis 2 Male(s) should be Fast Grab priced soon. :)

    Heh. And I just picked up Minotaur a couple of days ago.

    To be frank about G2M, I actually disliked him. Took a couple of new characters to half change my mind. But, still, I've barely used him and still go back to Genesis and M4.

    He is far superior to Genesis 1 if you like muscular figures. G1's muscle morphs lacked detail on the arms, and it was difficult if not impossible to get a nice muscular (but not quite Freak-level muscular) character without getting monstrous triceps, which is a big problem if you're trying to make a muscular Asian male.

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410
    edited December 1969

    I figure I've got plenty of mileage left with Darius and Gianni.

    Victoria 7 was my must buy for G3, while Michael can probably wait unless he poops gold and shoots unicorn rainbows out of his mouth. I'd rather wait for another G3M release... virtually any other besides good ol' Mike.

  • JohnDelaquioxJohnDelaquiox Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    So no Hiro 6

  • JohnDelaquioxJohnDelaquiox Posts: 1,195
    edited June 2015

    David 3 is still one of my favorite males and is also still one of the most used by a lot of my friends because of his muscularity.

    There was also Basile +Andre2.0 for Michael 3 by atlanti style which is to this day one of the most impressive characters I have seen for any male model. I wish the artist had continued the line for M4. The possibilities could have been endless.

    I think you can still get the bundle today from the store front.

    Sixus1 Did a character for M4 with some custom morphs called Fireball. Its a bit hard to use in studio but worth it. Awesome morphs detail.

    Isikol had a friend create some custom morphs for M4, the fireball set is the closest I have seen to it available in the market place.

    Moon light by isikol
    http://isikol.deviantart.com/art/MOONLIGHT-495043195

    I Am The Power by isikol
    http://isikol.deviantart.com/art/I-AM-THE-POWER-494235365

    IF you read the details it states This morph has correct seratus - external oblique - rectus abdominis
    which is something that is still lacking in models today

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  • cdemeritcdemerit Posts: 505
    edited December 1969

    Mr Leong said:
    On the bright side, Minotaur 6 HD for Genesis 2 Male(s) should be Fast Grab priced soon. :)

    Actually Minotaur 6 has already been on sale a couple times for 73% or more off. I picked up the base model for $10.80 a couple weeks ago... I passed on the Bundle at one point for $18.00 as I was over budget for the week.


    As for G2.... With rare exceptions, I Don't use G2 figures... It simply take too much memory (at least on my machine) even without any HD addons... I prefer Genesis for the most part. as 5 G1 characters, heavily morphed take less time than 1 G2 base to render :/

    I'm finding that I am staring to use more M4/V4 than I ever expected, especially in distance shots.

    However, I'll admit, it is far easier to get a good looking smile out of a G3F than it ever was for a G1/G2.

  • mal3Imagerymal3Imagery Posts: 713
    edited December 1969

    GM2 is still a very powerful and versatile character to use still. I don't think GM2 won't be going away anytime soon. I use GM2 a lot in my renders.

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