Neural Notions - Quantum Landscape 8k HDRIs

vonHobo

https://www.daz3d.com/neural-notions--quantum-landscape-8k-hdris

Just nabbed this from the DAZ Shop. All I have to say is WOW! Absolutely amazing product.

I can see where this can be very useful for many scenes requiring a backdrop.

Hylas

DimensionTheory always makes amazing HDRIs!

I will say, as someone who already owns iRadiance Crystals, the kind of light this provides appears to be very similar.

But the images look pretty spectacular! Love the painterly aesthetics of it.

Pitmatic

It looks frankly amazing but is it AI generated I hate to be asking this but would this have the same licensing issues wonbo art generated material would have? 

Just wondering

vonHobo

Pitmatic said:

It looks frankly amazing but is it AI generated I hate to be asking this but would this have the same licensing issues wonbo art generated material would have? 

Just wondering

Wonbo art? I wonder what that is. 

vonHobo

von Hobo said:

Pitmatic said:

It looks frankly amazing but is it AI generated I hate to be asking this but would this have the same licensing issues wonbo art generated material would have? 

Just wondering

Wonbo art? I wonder what that is. 

OK. I found it. WOMBO.

To me it looks like they are just warning not to use any copyrighted material in generating images  with their software (for example, faces, brands, other people's photos, etc) but I believe anything else you create, 2D or 3D, with WOMBO is free to use commercially or otherwise?

It would not make sense for a company like WOMBO, or even DAZ for that matter, to prohibit the personal or commercial use of any 2D images created with the software. 

 

Pitmatic

 

DAZ is not AI generated material... there was another product in the shop that was made with Wombo and it got pulled.

AI generated material has got issues if the AI got that material from just any old image off the web the AI provider cannot claim it as thier own and thence cant let you use it for whatever you use it for full stop which makes it a pointless exercise.

From an article ablout Dalle-e and the issues of AI geneated material.

The US Copyright Office says that it will register an “original work of authorship, provided that the work was created by a human being.” This is due to the old precedent that the only thing worth copyrighting is “the fruits of intellectual labor,” produced by the “creative powers of the mind.” In 1991, this principle was affirmed by a case of purloined listings from one phone book company by another. The Supreme Court held that while effort may have gone into the compilation of a phone book, the information contained therein was not an original work, created by a human being, and so therefore couldn’t be copyrighted. It will be interesting to see if there are any challenges made to users trying to license or sell a DALL-E work for this very reason.

Anyway so imagine you ran off loads of AI imagery and stuck it on your favourite POD site someone could download your images and sell them and you could do literaly nothing about it assuming the article is correct I know already some stock libraries will not accept AI imagery for this reason

I wonder if Editorial licenses are to cater for this issue?

 

vonHobo

Pitmatic said:

 

DAZ is not AI generated material... there was another product in the shop that was made with Wombo and it got pulled.

AI generated material has got issues if the AI got that material from just any old image off the web the AI provider cannot claim it as thier own and thence cant let you use it for whatever you use it for full stop which makes it a pointless exercise.

From an article ablout Dalle-e and the issues of AI geneated material.

The US Copyright Office says that it will register an “original work of authorship, provided that the work was created by a human being.” This is due to the old precedent that the only thing worth copyrighting is “the fruits of intellectual labor,” produced by the “creative powers of the mind.” In 1991, this principle was affirmed by a case of purloined listings from one phone book company by another. The Supreme Court held that while effort may have gone into the compilation of a phone book, the information contained therein was not an original work, created by a human being, and so therefore couldn’t be copyrighted. It will be interesting to see if there are any challenges made to users trying to license or sell a DALL-E work for this very reason.

Anyway so imagine you ran off loads of AI imagery and stuck it on your favourite POD site someone could download your images and sell them and you could do literaly nothing about it assuming the article is correct I know already some stock libraries will not accept AI imagery for this reason

I wonder if Editorial licenses are to cater for this issue?

 

I see your point. That makes sense, because if the images used to created the AI backdrops are copyrighted, then that would be an issue I'm sure.

Like Picasso said: 

"There is no abstract art. You must always start with something. Afterward you can remove all traces of reality."

And that is particulary true with AI, except you cannot remove the "traces of reality" from the AI-generated art.