DAZ Studio 4.20 - A problem with D-FORCE hair

Hello there!

Until now I worked only with standard hair for G3 and G8 characters and everything was fine. Now I just wanted to use some new option: D-force hairs. On the  first picture there is a SWEET MAGNOLIA HAIR as example. To see final results I need to simulate the hair(or dforce clothes) before render final scene? So after this operation in N-VIDIA PREVIEW (on the second picture)I don't see any final hair, but they're occurs when I do final render.

Whats wrong with this option in my version of DAZ?? Is this problem has to do with insufficient virtual memory or graphic card?

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Comments

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,691

    DForce hair not being visible in Iray preview is actually normal behavior, as dForce hair uses a lot of resources it's not enabled in preview by default. 
    Change the "preview PR hair" parameter of the hair to "on", it's off in your screenshot. 

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,052

    You don't need to simulate to see the final results, but most dForce hair is set not to appear in Iray previews by default so as not to bog your system down too much. Also, dForce hair won't render if certain tools are selected. I don't know if the surface selection tool (what you currently have selected) is one of those, but you could try hitting Alt+Shift+U to switch to the universal tool and see if that helps.

  • lord Adamlord Adam Posts: 125

    Ok I understand that d-force hair are available only when I make a final render... but still got another problem after I uptaded daz studio to last version - I can't load any previous saved files of my work (I get only errors)I.

    At first I thought that maybe is some problem with G8F deforce chracters / hairs but similar errors I get with G3F with normal hair - as You can see on the picture below a small icon of saved work/character is blank (but some older full scenes are loading correctly). Recently I just install a DAZCENTRAL so maybe this cause some software-conflicts... This kind of problem I have for the first time and I really don't know how to fix this...

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  • Have you checked the end of the log file after trying to load (Help>Troubleshooting>View Log File)?

  • lord Adamlord Adam Posts: 125

    These are the last information from log files:

    2022-08-21 17:56:44.355 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Head/PHMNoseTipWidth.dsf#PHMNoseTipWidth?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/AliveSheCried/Alt%20Teen%20Jane%208/CTRLAltTeenJaneM04Head.dsf
    2022-08-21 17:56:44.355 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Head/PHMNoseTipHeight.dsf#PHMNoseTipHeight?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/AliveSheCried/Alt%20Teen%20Jane%208/CTRLAltTeenJaneM04Head.dsf
    2022-08-21 17:56:44.355 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Head/PHMNoseSkew.dsf#PHMNoseSkew?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/AliveSheCried/Alt%20Teen%20Jane%208/CTRLAltTeenJaneM04Head.dsf
    2022-08-21 17:56:44.355 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Head/PHMNoseSeptumWidth.dsf#PHMNoseSeptumWidth?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/AliveSheCried/Alt%20Teen%20Jane%208/CTRLAltTeenJaneM04Head.dsf
    2022-08-21 17:56:44.355 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Head/PHMNoseSeptumDepth.dsf#PHMNoseSeptumDepth?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/AliveSheCried/Alt%20Teen%20Jane%208/CTRLAltTeenJaneM04Head.dsf
    2022-08-21 17:56:44.355 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Head/PHMNosePinch.dsf#PHMNosePinch?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/AliveSheCried/Alt%20Teen%20Jane%208/CTRLAltTeenJaneM04Head.dsf
    2022-08-21 17:56:44.355 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6903): Formula output property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Head/PHMNoseHeight.dsf#PHMNoseHeight?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/AliveSheCried/Alt%20Teen%20Jane%208/CTRLAltTeenJaneM04Head.dsf

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Such a small snippet doesn't help.

    Attach the logfile to your post with "Attach a file" above the "Post Comment" button, do not copy the text from the log to the message area.

  • lord Adamlord Adam Posts: 125

    Ok, Here You go the last logs form my DAZ 4.20

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Based on your log, I think your problem is caused by the way you have set up your content libraries.

    Your log complains about 10 different nested directories, DS doesn't like them.
    A nested directory is a Content Library located inside another Content Library

    Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder: H:/DAZ3D new Content 2019/Content : H:/DAZ3D new Content 2019
    Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder: H:/DAZ3D new Content 2019/Content/My Library : H:/DAZ3D new Content 2019
    Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder: H:/DAZ3D new Content 2019/Content/My Library : H:/DAZ3D new Content 2019/Content
    Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder: M:/DAZ3D PScontent 2017/Animals : M:/DAZ3D PScontent 2017
    Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder: M:/DAZ3D PScontent 2017/content : M:/DAZ3D PScontent 2017
    Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder: M:/DAZ3D PScontent 2017/Runtime : M:/DAZ3D PScontent 2017
    Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder: M:/DAZ3D PScontent 2017/Runtime/Textures/Meshworkz/K9 : M:/DAZ3D PScontent 2017
    Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder: M:/DAZ3D PScontent 2017/Runtime/Textures/Meshworkz/K9 : M:/DAZ3D PScontent 2017/Runtime
    Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder: B:/DAZ NEW Content 2021/Content/My Library : B:/DAZ NEW Content 2021/Content
    Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder: B:/DAZ NEW Content 2021/Content/Runtime : B:/DAZ NEW Content 2021/Content

    Show us all the paths that you have specified in Content Directory Manager, expand them all like in the attached sample

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  • lord Adamlord Adam Posts: 125

    Hi, thank You for Your replay. There You go this is my Content Library below on the picture. Maybe I should reduce them to max two directories??

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    What's behind doors no 2 and 3?

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  • lord Adamlord Adam Posts: 125

    Ok that's all of my content library... I think:)

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Ok,

    Everything I have crossed out is a nested directory and should be removed from the list
    Non-US characters in several path names... DS doesn't like, Daz has recently been working on this, but until it's confirmed not to be a problem anymore, one should stick to US character set only.
    You have a path S:\DAZ New Content[something]20... remove the [something]
    The path to your DAZ Connect installed content is "C:\Daz 3D\Applications\Data\DAZ 3D\My DAZ 3D Library" - Is this folder also used for other methods of installation? (DAZ Central/DIM/Manual installation) as it's also specified under "DAZ Studio Formats" and ""Poser Formats". It would make things easier to troubleshoot, if DAZ Connect files had a completely separate path for the content.
    You have a second content set, with just one path and the path is also specified on the other content set, is there a reason for it?

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  • lord Adamlord Adam Posts: 125

    I just clean up the mess with content directories as You can see on the first picture and I just created a new document: CB ELIZA G8F -TEST NEW CONTENT SET 2022 (the problem with saving my work is still exist as You can see on these last logs). So far the most of my content working just fine after Manual installation (the free stuff I just downloaded by DAZ Central recently into C:\Daz 3D\Applications\Data\DAZ 3D\My DAZ 3D Library). I think there are some conficts but I don't know what more I sholud delte in CONTENT DIRECTORY MANAGER.

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    txt
    NEW logs.txt
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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Have you opened the "CB ELIZA G8F -TEST NEW CONTENT SET 2022.duf" in notepad to see what is it looking and where?

  • lord Adamlord Adam Posts: 125

    Yes, at first the software is ,,locking viewport redraw  and then Viewport redraw locked". After error ,,viewport redraw unlocked". Maybe I should unnistal DAZ Central or remove all directories for Daz content library and add them again??

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Is the "CB ELIZA G8F -TEST NEW CONTENT SET 2022.duf" your startup scene that loads automatically when DS starts, or do you first start DS and then open the "CB ELIZA G8F -TEST NEW CONTENT SET 2022.duf" or do you open the "CB ELIZA G8F -TEST NEW CONTENT SET 2022.duf" from Windows Explorer?

  • lord Adamlord Adam Posts: 125

    I start DS and then try to load/open recent file"CB ELIZA G8F -TEST NEW CONTENT SET 2022". Old documents saved earlier (about month ago) are working just fine but when I try to overwrite them to a new one - I gets an error when I want to load them in new DS sesion.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Have you tried opening the files in 7-Zip (Open archive) to make sure they are not broken?

  • lord Adamlord Adam Posts: 125

    Everytime when I open archive file (manual instalation of chracters) I know when they are broken by archive infos... I just unistall Daz Connet and reinstal a latest version of Daz Studio. Nothig's change. I still can't load any eariler work or save a new document... It's irritating and I'm out of options - does anyone of You have similar problems??

  • lord Adamlord Adam Posts: 125
    edited August 2022

    Hey d_nytr_n  I find Your post on daz forum ( https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/555621/error-loading-asset) . Do You have to reinstall all your Content / characters from scratch? I get only  errors when I loading asset (and when I wnat to save a new scene form old one - new uptaded). So far Daz Studio was the best choice for 3D animation for me but now I think I must ,,abandon all hope" and switch on BLENDER...

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