Mactan Airport Lounge - No Way In, No Way Out

CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082
edited August 2022 in The Commons

Seriously, what is it with DAZ and sets that have fundamental flaws like no points of entry or exit? I was rather excited to see the new Mactan Airport Lounge set when I opened the store this morning, but upon closer examination I realized that, besiedes missing such essential features as restrooms and a check in stand, it not only has no door or hallway leading in, but the process of adding one will inevitably require eliminating some of the very details that I'd be paying for in the first place.  This has become such a common issue with DAZ products as of late that I have to wonder if all of the DAZ staff are locked in rooms that have been permanently walled off and simply consider this normal, or if it's just that no one is physically looking at the contents of products before they're shoveled into the store?  

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  • MachineClawMachineClaw Posts: 137
    edited August 2022

    I think the glass wall is suposed to be the entrance .  Kinda looks like glass door in the glass wall.  I think that little room is suposed to be the illusion of a floury (spelling?)

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082

    MachineClaw said:

    I think the glass wall is suposed to be the entrance .  Kinda looks like glass door in the glass wall.  I think that little room is suposed to be the illusion of a floury (spelling?)

    Look at the overhead view.  That's a small glassed in area with dining tables and no door or access.  That is the most logical place to put some kind of entrance and the easiest solution would to be to put an elevator there and assume that the check in counter is downstairs, which is a fairly common set up these days, but if that was the intent, why put tables in there at all instead of a mock-up of a door?           

  • felisfelis Posts: 4,617
    edited August 2022

    The glass is tilted, so not something you would set a door in 

    But maybe it is intended as a sci-fi product where people can teleport into the room.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,202

    ...there are not only a number of other interior sets without any way in or out, but a private jet as well which has no door for the passengers to board or exit through.  I was looking to purchase it until I saw that flaw.  I can deal with doors that do not open (there are ways around that), but no door at all is definitely a "no sale". 

  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,152

    Toronto International Airport has no way in and no way out either - even by plane.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066
    edited August 2022

    Clearly you haven't been to an airport recently...

    You enter and exit the room from the refrigerator unit next to the cool case on the far wall (top of promo image)... it's becoming a standard thing at most airports... I was just at LaGuardia, San Francisco, LAX and JFK airports and all of the passenger areas use refrigerators as the entry points now... LaGuardia recently completed construction on most of the passenger waiting areas, so they chose nice wide refrigerators with armpit level air vents that blow a refreshing breeze on your pits to cool them off... it's very relaxing.

    On the downside you now have to enter the restrooms through the toilets, but as long as the last person flushed, it's not that bad... well...  it is pretty bad... terrible, in fact... it's a horrible idea... I don't know what they were thinking...  but what can you do, once a design trend starts it's unavoidable... like ill-fitting sliding doors on hotel bathrooms, it's everywhere.

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,649

    You've got to be careful about using the Refrigerator Network.  One of those refrigerator portals opens into a kitchen where some guy is trying to take the liver of lady who lives there, and then Eric Idle pops out of the refrigerator and sings "The Galaxy Song"yes

  • MKDAWUSSMKDAWUSS Posts: 94

    Clever camera angles only do so much...

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082
    edited August 2022

    McGyver said:

    Clearly you haven't been to an airport recently...

    You enter and exit the room from the refrigerator unit next to the cool case on the far wall (top of promo image)... it's becoming a standard thing at most airports... I was just at LaGuardia, San Francisco, LAX and JFK airports and all of the passenger areas use refrigerators as the entry points now... LaGuardia recently completed construction on most of the passenger waiting areas, so they chose nice wide refrigerators with armpit level air vents that blow a refreshing breeze on your pits to cool them off... it's very relaxing.

    On the downside you now have to enter the restrooms through the toilets, but as long as the last person flushed, it's not that bad... well...  it is pretty bad... terrible, in fact... it's a horrible idea... I don't know what they were thinking...  but what can you do, once a design trend starts it's unavoidable... like ill-fitting sliding doors on hotel bathrooms, it's everywhere.

    See, I know you're making this up as the entrance to LAX is actually in Terminal 6 behind the Carl's Junior, while the entrance to LaGuardia is through the seventh ring of Hell.  (Conveniently, though, Newark Int. is on the 8th ring of Hell, so frequent fliers and demons all use it as a easy way to avoid the tunnel.

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  • Remember the song 'Hotel California' where you check out but never leave? This is just extending the range of establishments it applies to. It wasn't on my buy list, but with no door, it'll never get on it. Regards, Richard.
  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    edited August 2022

    richardandtracy said:

    Remember the song 'Hotel California' where you check out but never leave? This is just extending the range of establishments it applies to. It wasn't on my buy list, but with no door, it'll never get on it. Regards, Richard.

     

    I do like that song but those lyrics have haunted me ever since it was released (perhaps released is the wrong term considering the lyrics?). So even in my virtual world, I need a way in and a way out. By the way, I think it was "check-in" but never leave.

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  • AgitatedRiotAgitatedRiot Posts: 4,437
    I think the song was about the excessive materialism of California. In the 70s
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,202

    Cybersox said:

    McGyver said:

    Clearly you haven't been to an airport recently...

    You enter and exit the room from the refrigerator unit next to the cool case on the far wall (top of promo image)... it's becoming a standard thing at most airports... I was just at LaGuardia, San Francisco, LAX and JFK airports and all of the passenger areas use refrigerators as the entry points now... LaGuardia recently completed construction on most of the passenger waiting areas, so they chose nice wide refrigerators with armpit level air vents that blow a refreshing breeze on your pits to cool them off... it's very relaxing.

    On the downside you now have to enter the restrooms through the toilets, but as long as the last person flushed, it's not that bad... well...  it is pretty bad... terrible, in fact... it's a horrible idea... I don't know what they were thinking...  but what can you do, once a design trend starts it's unavoidable... like ill-fitting sliding doors on hotel bathrooms, it's everywhere.

    See, I know you're making this up as the entrance to LAX is actually in Terminal 6 behind the Carl's Junior, while the entrance to LaGuardia is through the seventh ring of Hell.  (Conveniently, though, Newark Int. is on the 8th ring of Hell, so frequent fliers and demons all use it as a easy way to avoid the tunnel.

    ...I thought that was Atlanta Harstfield.  The old adage among business travellers is after you die and are scheduled go to either the "good" or "bad", place you always have to change in Atlanta first.  Sort of a purgatory on Earth. 

    DFW was sort of like that as well until they put the inter-terminal tram in.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082

    kyoto kid said:

    ...there are not only a number of other interior sets without any way in or out, but a private jet as well which has no door for the passengers to board or exit through.  I was looking to purchase it until I saw that flaw.  I can deal with doors that do not open (there are ways around that), but no door at all is definitely a "no sale". 

    I'm not as strict and will buy some of them, if they look like I can at least make them work without too much bother... but by the same token, if I know that I'll have to do more than just a bit of work to make them usuable, I'm not inclined to pay initial release prices.       

  • CHWTCHWT Posts: 1,183
    Sometimes I love sets with no entrances or exits like this. Perfect for scenes like Sharon Stone in Scissors... you have no idea how you got it and you got no way out!
  • kwerkxkwerkx Posts: 105

    It's growing on me..

    The buffet in the main room interests me the most.. three walls are connected and looks like I could make a buffet vignette out of it.  Ignoring the green chairs, that main room "vignette" could be one of those complementary breakfasts areas you find in hotels; alternately and again, as a "vignette" I could bolt it to some other hallway as sort of a break rooms.

    I get that without an entrance or exit it's not "complete"; but I like the idea of having a breakfast buffet vignette.. either that or I'm craving bad pancakes and little boxes of cereal again ;).

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,753

    marble said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Remember the song 'Hotel California' where you check out but never leave? This is just extending the range of establishments it applies to. It wasn't on my buy list, but with no door, it'll never get on it. Regards, Richard.

     

    I do like that song but those lyrics have haunted me ever since it was released (perhaps released is the wrong term considering the lyrics?). So even in my virtual world, I need a way in and a way out. By the way, I think it was "check-in" but never leave.

    No, it is check-out.

    "You can check-out any time you like"
    "But you can never leave!"

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,202

    By the way, I think it was "check-in" but never leave.

    ...actually that's the slogan for Black Flag's Roach Motel.

    "Roaches check in but they don't check out".

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293

    kyoto kid said:

    By the way, I think it was "check-in" but never leave.

    ...actually that's the slogan for Black Flag's Roach Motel.

    "Roaches check in but they don't check out".

     

    diatomaceous earth is more effective. like 100%.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066
    edited August 2022

    nonesuch00 said: 

    diatomaceous earth is more effective. like 100%.

    But the tiny stabby Norman Bates (Alfred Hitchcock's, "Psycho") roaches that come with each Roach Motel are far more amusing... granted, you eventually have to dump the bodies out of the tiny shower stalls, but knowing the little SOBs got what they deserved for trying to steal your cookie is totally worth the inefficiency compared to diatomaceous earth or tiny land mines... which admittedly the later can be quite amusing, but the late night screams and explosions can be rather disruptive.

    I definitely would recommend against Raunchy Roach Motel™... it just provides a place for roaches to hook up and have weird kinky roach sex and eventually you end up with even more roaches...

     

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    I have often wondered, what have they done here in Finland in the beginning of last century or even earlier, as they achieved the impossible... No roaches anywhere.
    Can't be the climate as in the past, I have spent quite some time in our eastern neighbour with the same or worse climate, and they were thriving there.
    Have even asked my grandma and others her age, but they haven't had a clue...

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082

    The old Wretched Mess news and calendar (from back in the late sixties/early seventies) once had an ad that promised to "get rid of ugly, disgusting roaches."  It was a kit filled with sequins, glue, and dyed feathers to "turn them into attrractive pets."  I wish I had a copy of the illustration, as just thinking about that one still makes me laugh out loud.  

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066

    Cybersox said:

    The old Wretched Mess news and calendar (from back in the late sixties/early seventies) once had an ad that promised to "get rid of ugly, disgusting roaches."  It was a kit filled with sequins, glue, and dyed feathers to "turn them into attrractive pets."  I wish I had a copy of the illustration, as just thinking about that one still makes me laugh out loud.  

    That's brilliant... I was just saying something similar about NYC's huge rat problem... if they dressed them up in little costumes like some kind of Disney or Pixar characters, they'd be accepted as adorable companions as opposed disgusting pests... think about it... you stick a furry tail on a rat and toss it up a tree and it's a squirrel... people feed squirrels and buy squirrel themed merch... but shave the tail and toss the rat back in the sewers, and "poof" there goes all the love... appearance is everything.

    The costumes worked for NYC's C.H.U.D. problem... back in the 80s the CHUDs were eating people in the subways and back alleys left and right because society couldn't deal with the mutated appearance of these poor cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers... they felt shunned by society and turned to cannibalism... (Well, technically they were already "cannibalistic")... but in the late 90s - early 00s the city started giving them Elmo and Spider-Man costumes and now tourists love them... you go to Times Square and everyone is taking pictures with them and nobody once take a moment to realize they are hugging a CHUD... The CHUDs fit right in and nobody is getting eaten that often... mostly... 

    I'm sure if they did the same with the rats (and maybe the sewer alligators too), it would be a great opportunity for NYC.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,082

    McGyver said:

    Cybersox said:

    The old Wretched Mess news and calendar (from back in the late sixties/early seventies) once had an ad that promised to "get rid of ugly, disgusting roaches."  It was a kit filled with sequins, glue, and dyed feathers to "turn them into attrractive pets."  I wish I had a copy of the illustration, as just thinking about that one still makes me laugh out loud.  

    That's brilliant... I was just saying something similar about NYC's huge rat problem... if they dressed them up in little costumes like some kind of Disney or Pixar characters, they'd be accepted as adorable companions as opposed disgusting pests... think about it... you stick a furry tail on a rat and toss it up a tree and it's a squirrel... people feed squirrels and buy squirrel themed merch... but shave the tail and toss the rat back in the sewers, and "poof" there goes all the love... appearance is everything.

    The costumes worked for NYC's C.H.U.D. problem... back in the 80s the CHUDs were eating people in the subways and back alleys left and right because society couldn't deal with the mutated appearance of these poor cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers... they felt shunned by society and turned to cannibalism... (Well, technically they were already "cannibalistic")... but in the late 90s - early 00s the city started giving them Elmo and Spider-Man costumes and now tourists love them... you go to Times Square and everyone is taking pictures with them and nobody once take a moment to realize they are hugging a CHUD... The CHUDs fit right in and nobody is getting eaten that often... mostly... 

    I'm sure if they did the same with the rats (and maybe the sewer alligators too), it would be a great opportunity for NYC.

    Hey, they've already started doing that with the Pizza Rat.  There aren't many places besides New York where a vermin spotted carrying spoiling food from the garbage through a public place could somehow become a major celebrity.  

    As for the C.H.U.D.s, I wonder what ever became of Bud the C.H.U.D. after C.H.U.D. 2?  

     

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,066

    Cybersox said:.  

    ...As for the C.H.U.D.s, I wonder what ever became of Bud the C.H.U.D. after C.H.U.D. 2?  


     

    I believe he moved to Astoria, Queens and ran for a position on the city council, but his campaign didn't do too well because of the cannibalism thing... last I heard he was running a souvlaki food truck by the elevated station off Ditmars boulevard.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    barbult said:

    marble said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Remember the song 'Hotel California' where you check out but never leave? This is just extending the range of establishments it applies to. It wasn't on my buy list, but with no door, it'll never get on it. Regards, Richard.

     

    I do like that song but those lyrics have haunted me ever since it was released (perhaps released is the wrong term considering the lyrics?). So even in my virtual world, I need a way in and a way out. By the way, I think it was "check-in" but never leave.

    No, it is check-out.

    "You can check-out any time you like"
    "But you can never leave!"

    Funny how you can hear something a million times and still believe you heard it the way your mind thinks it should be. For some reason, "check-in" makes more sense to my mind.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    McGyver said:

    Cybersox said:

    The old Wretched Mess news and calendar (from back in the late sixties/early seventies) once had an ad that promised to "get rid of ugly, disgusting roaches."  It was a kit filled with sequins, glue, and dyed feathers to "turn them into attrractive pets."  I wish I had a copy of the illustration, as just thinking about that one still makes me laugh out loud.  

    That's brilliant... I was just saying something similar about NYC's huge rat problem... if they dressed them up in little costumes like some kind of Disney or Pixar characters, they'd be accepted as adorable companions as opposed disgusting pests... think about it... you stick a furry tail on a rat and toss it up a tree and it's a squirrel... people feed squirrels and buy squirrel themed merch... but shave the tail and toss the rat back in the sewers, and "poof" there goes all the love... appearance is everything.

    The costumes worked for NYC's C.H.U.D. problem... back in the 80s the CHUDs were eating people in the subways and back alleys left and right because society couldn't deal with the mutated appearance of these poor cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers... they felt shunned by society and turned to cannibalism... (Well, technically they were already "cannibalistic")... but in the late 90s - early 00s the city started giving them Elmo and Spider-Man costumes and now tourists love them... you go to Times Square and everyone is taking pictures with them and nobody once take a moment to realize they are hugging a CHUD... The CHUDs fit right in and nobody is getting eaten that often... mostly... 

    I'm sure if they did the same with the rats (and maybe the sewer alligators too), it would be a great opportunity for NYC.

    I watched a documentary about rats and, contrary to common belief, they are fastidiously clean - rivalling cats for grooming themselves many times a day.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,202

    McGyver said:

    Cybersox said:.  

    ...As for the C.H.U.D.s, I wonder what ever became of Bud the C.H.U.D. after C.H.U.D. 2?  


     

    I believe he moved to Astoria, Queens and ran for a position on the city council, but his campaign didn't do too well because of the cannibalism thing... last I heard he was running a souvlaki food truck by the elevated station off Ditmars boulevard.

    ...you sure it was Astoria/Queens and not Astoria Oregon? 

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293

    McGyver said:

    nonesuch00 said: 

    diatomaceous earth is more effective. like 100%.

    But the tiny stabby Norman Bates (Alfred Hitchcock's, "Psycho") roaches that come with each Roach Motel are far more amusing... granted, you eventually have to dump the bodies out of the tiny shower stalls, but knowing the little SOBs got what they deserved for trying to steal your cookie is totally worth the inefficiency compared to diatomaceous earth or tiny land mines... which admittedly the later can be quite amusing, but the late night screams and explosions can be rather disruptive.

    I definitely would recommend against Raunchy Roach Motel™... it just provides a place for roaches to hook up and have weird kinky roach sex and eventually you end up with even more roaches...

     

    LOL, my kitchen is boring. They are very funny in commercials though.

  • I guess the moral of this thread is: "PA's, be sure to include doors in your products or people will start talking about roaches and rats". laugh

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