Iray render look in Carrara? or no way
Khoe
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Is it possible to create the look of the Iray render from Dazstudio in Carrara? The results in Daz look somehow more realistic.
I know that Carrar uses a completely different render engine. The light reflections, haze, shadows don't look so nice in Carrara.
What do you have to change in the shader or light settings or maybe in the render settings.
I'm just interested
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Carrara's default lighting and shaders are designed for efficient computer resource usage and speed. But that is just default. You can change them. At the time, very useful for animations and similar. You would not want each frame to take multiple hours like Iray hyper-realism if you were rendering an animation. So, you have to make adjustments to both lighting and shaders to improve photo-realism along the lines of Iray for stills, but great improvements are possible. PhilW had a video tutorial dedicated to realism for stills in Carrara, separate from his tutorial for animation. Not sure if it is still available somewhere. I believe there were a few forum threads dedicated to the subject.
Found an old thread related to the release of the PhilW realism video. There should be more general threads on the subject of realism in Carrara.
Carrara - Realism Rendering Traing Videos [Commercial] - Daz 3D Forums
Unfortunately, the page no longer exists. I can't find anything in the Dazstore either. ::::
Page link worked for me.
Videos are now owned by www.oreilly.com, if you do a search for them and type in Carrara in their search window the list of available videos will come up.
i have found it with Serching. Now i check it.
I think it would be helpful to post a picture done in DS - without postwork - that you consider more realistic.
every software renderer has a look including Carrara and DAZ iray, Firefly and 3Delight also have a look as do Cycles, Eevee, Vray, Marmoset etc etc
I would argue it doesn't necessarily look more realistic though even if technically it's supposed to be, we do not see things in PBR, the brain fills in gaps and often we see what we expect to see especially when memories come into play, a photograph only sees what the nitrates on the emulsion reacted to which is entirely dependent on which rays of light entered the lens at that nanosecond which is constantly dynamic, subsequent shots can look very different as lightning, camera position and surrounding moving objects change.
Unlike a photograph a render is a static artificial unchanging scene so in itself never realistic
Octane is photorealistic (and available for Carrara) and has it's own look too
what I do find is iray for anything involving lots of emissive surfaces is exceedingly noisy unless rendered for hours on end or denoised looking muddy, Luxrender also useable with Carrara has this problem
Octane seems much less noisy to me personally and I have the Carrara plugin yet often I prefer the Carrara engine depending on what I am rendering
I've only recently started using DS/Iray and have been impressed with the quality, if not the speed. In Carrara I've used Global Illumination when I want a high quality render. Attached is an example using a sample scene from Carrara' browser with a few tweaks (sky, GI). Looks pretty good to me, and took 5 sec to render vs one hour plus with Iray on many scenes (same computer, 12 core AMD with 24 threads, good nVidia card).
Yes, that's exactly the style, but what exactly was set there. I think it has something to do with the light and then the dender setting. Or something was done differently with the material. but what?
gamma 2.2 but not the hair, had to add that in post