Recent updates to the Install Manager default filters

jbowler

I think these updates are excellent; I only just noticed them.  It really helps to have more filters in there.  I'm not saying they're perfect (store:false is not a way of detecting a non-DAZ product; I use Content Wizard), but they are a very valuable addition and they give real examples of the syntax.

frank0314

What would you like to see added? You can put in feature requests.

Richard Haseltine

Moved to the Commons as it is not a Daz Studio topic as such.

The Store filter is explained here http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/install_manager/referenceguide/tech_articles/filters/start#store

jbowler

frank0314 said:

What would you like to see added? You can put in feature requests.

Some of these are difficult, if not impossible, to implement with the current regular expression syntax, and some depend on PAs putting stuff in the right place, but:

1. By Name/Figures  I.e. all packages that contain a character that "is" a particular generation.  (Yep, I know, really difficult; when I needed to do it I used an rx that was way more complex than the current DAZ specific one and then selected things out).
2. Make "by source" actually work :-)  Content Wizard can create new stores, then store::false returns, well, false ;-)  tag::all::CloudAvailable might work if inverted.
3. By Category; i.e. packages which contain things like wardrobe.  The reason is that it may be important when uninstalling packages not to remove things that are used elsewhere.  To be useful this requires:
4. Upgrade the UI to make the filters ammenable to combinatorial logic: AND and OR.  So that they can be added to the current filter.
5. Fix the bug I have previously reported with regard to immediate update.  E.G. type this into the filter pane:
   
   file::rx::^/.+/[Rr][Uu][Nn][Tt][Ii][Mm][Ee]/
   
   I.e. I don't mean copy'n'paste it; I mean try to type it character-by-character.  Ridiculous.  (BTW the filter detects sku::27727, and possibly others that I don't possess, I call it "Bad Install", I find it very useful.)

Richard Haseltine

jbowler said:

frank0314 said:

What would you like to see added? You can put in feature requests.

Some of these are difficult, if not impossible, to implement with the current regular expression syntax, and some depend on PAs putting stuff in the right place, but:

1. By Name/Figures  I.e. all packages that contain a character that "is" a particular generation.  (Yep, I know, really difficult; when I needed to do it I used an rx that was way more complex than the current DAZ specific one and then selected things out).
2. Make "by source" actually work :-)  Content Wizard can create new stores, then store::false returns, well, false ;-)  tag::all::CloudAvailable might work if inverted.
3. By Category; i.e. packages which contain things like wardrobe.  The reason is that it may be important when uninstalling packages not to remove things that are used elsewhere.  To be useful this requires:
4. Upgrade the UI to make the filters ammenable to combinatorial logic: AND and OR.  So that they can be added to the current filter.
5. Fix the bug I have previously reported with regard to immediate update.  E.G. type this into the filter pane:
   
   file::rx::^/.+/[Rr][Uu][Nn][Tt][Ii][Mm][Ee]/
   
   I.e. I don't mean copy'n'paste it; I mean try to type it character-by-character.  Ridiculous.  (BTW the filter detects sku::27727, and possibly others that I don't possess, I call it "Bad Install", I find it very useful.)

1. Compatibility (Base) is not available as external metadata - the .dsx file that sits alongside the zip, which is what DIM handles. File paths are not available as external metadata. The Install Manager filters provided use information that is available externally at a given stage. Different types of metadata are avaialble for different contexts.

2. By Source filters work exactly as described in http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/install_manager/referenceguide/interface/filter_field/advanced_filtering#store - Install Manager is a tool that can connect to the Daz store, no other, though it can handle correctly formatted  and packaged zips from other sources. It does support other source prefixes being used (http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/install_manager/referenceguide/tech_articles/package_naming/start), which can be filtered using the sku:: (http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/install_manager/referenceguide/interface/filter_field/advanced_filtering#sku) scope selector with a range that represents that prefix.

3. Categories are not available as external (to a given package) metadata - none of the Install Manager  filters interrogate the contents of any file contained within a package. The file:: scope selector (http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/install_manager/referenceguide/interface/filter_field/advanced_filtering#file) is the closest to one that does and it is discretely described as being time intensive without interrogating the contents of files.

4. Logical AND is supported - http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/install_manager/referenceguide/interface/filter_field/advanced_filtering#logical_and since 1.1.0.37 (http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/install_manager/change_log_1_1_0_41#1_1_0_37)

5.There is a case-insensitive syntax modifier (http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/install_manager/referenceguide/interface/filter_field/advanced_filtering#case_insensitive). Using the method that requires least processing will yield better response, the fact that the alternative gives worse reposne is not a bug but simply reflects their difference.

Richard Haseltine

an additional note on 4 - holding down cmd(Mac)/ctrl(Win) while selecting an additional filter from the list will AND it with the current filter. See http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/install_manager/change_log_1_1_0_64#1_1_0_60