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I did quite extensive studying before getting the parts for my next system and the "Asus WS X299 SAGE/10G Intel LGA2066" with "i9-9940X 3,3 GHz" should still be supported by W7
...that's the standard Skylake generation, and those CPUs are expensive (between 720$ and 1,400$) which is why I never considered them. The specified MB is also pricey adding about 750 - 800$ The only 8 x 16 PC memory kit available is Corsair Vengeance (2666 MHz) for around 400$ (I don't overclock) So now I'm looking at around or just over 2,000$ (instead of 1,200$ which includes a very capable CPU active heat sink with dual fans). As the i9-9940X has a TDP of 165w (compared to 145 for the E5-2697V 4) it would likely require a closed water loop cooing solution that would replace the top exhaust fans in the case I have, for the radiator, leaving me with only the single 80mm one in back to pull out all the other excess heat from the GPUs, memory, and drives.
The difference in total overall processing performance between the 28 threads at 3.3GHz and 36 threads at 2.3GHz is a difference of 10GHz I don't see that as much of a factor particularly when I'll be rendering in Iray on an RTX 3060 (or hopefully in the near future a 3090). Even for rendering in 3DL with the AweShader, system that differential would have a minor impact on total render time.
Skylake was in that transition period between Broadwell and Kaby Lake and I skimmed through some articles that mention there may be some extra hoops to get W7 to work with the Skylake chipset. Again as these CPU's have a higher TDP then tend to run hot (my old i7 930 had a TDP of 130w and has been easily managed with a mid range CPU cooler even when I was till rendering in Iray on the CPU.
There was also discussion about being able to run 7 on the early Zen (3000) series, but again it took some smoke & mirrors to make it work.
Summing it all up, with the higher cost of the hardware and necessity for a closed loop cooling system I'f be looking at about 2,100 - 2,200$ when all is said and done (not including any M.2 drives) which is beyond my budget as like I mention, I am on a fixed pension income. I basically need to get the best performance i can out of the most cost effective setup for my needs.
No, it's Skylake-X (LGA2066/9th gen X-series i9), but yeah... They are pricey now. I managed to get them just before the prices went up 35% and got both for 1400eur (VAT 24% included)
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I think you could definately do what you want with that price range.
I went to PCPartspicker and "built" a system using a Ryzen 9 7900x and came in at just over $4000 (without operating system)... but that includes a 1TB Gen 4 PCIe Drive for OS/Programs and a 4TB Gen 4 drive for Data (like your DAZ Library... (mine won't fit on a 2TB drive :( ) The Motherboard has extra Sata Slots and M2 Slots so you can bring over your current systems data drives...
The Graphics Card in the build is a 3090, but is a place holder for a 4090 card (the 4090s are supposed to be $1500ish) and the power supply is one of the new ATX 3.0 ones at 1000w
you can play around with it according to your needs though
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@chumly I wish I was a do it yourself type for computer building but I would get it all wrong, trust me! After the 4090 is released, I will submit a new build to this page to see what people think. Thanks for your assist - everyone.
...true not everyone is. Over about an 18 month span I spent learning about PC design and building. before I even ordered my first parts as back then DIY was much less expensive than a custom build house and far better than what was available off the shelf (gaming computers were actually not that common back then)..
It comes down as I mentioned above, what works best for your needs within your budget. 490$ for a boxed E5-2697V4 18core/36 thread CPU that per core is 1GHz lower than the 9-9940X but has eight more threads and again as I mentioned performance across all 36 threads is not significantly inferior.
On my income, even 1,202$ is a stretch particularly with winter coming and higher expected power bills. (of course that Skylake-X CPU might keep the area by my desk warmer).
That's what I'm hoping too, as my current i7-5820K, X99, 64GB, RTX 3060 12GB plus 14 drives was not able to raise the temperature above 20C (68F) today with 5C (41F) outside temp.
Had to turn on the heater for the first time this autumn...
Well I was most excitedly re-configuring a computer to purchase from ibuypower, keeping in mind all of your comments and suggestions. I ran into a snag. Currently, they only offer memory DDR5 in 32gb not 64. They said there are instability issues and until those are worked out, you can only get 64 in the prior generation DDR4. I guess I will wait and check back in with them in a couple of weeks.
Here in Finland, getting 64GB DDR5 kits is no problem, they have two matching 32GB modules in them.
Are you in the States? 64 GB (2x32) DDR5 5600 RAM.
You don't need 1 stick of 64, put 2x32s in
They may be referring to the stick density themselves. 12th gen motherboards currently support up to 128GB of RAM with 4 slots, which would mean a max density of each stick of being 32GB. Not sure about the Intel 790 chipset, but I'd imagine it would be the same.
Intel may also have something coming up to replace the aging HEDT platform, but then again, it will take some time before their prices will drop to hobbyist level.
Yes, they said you can "do it yourself" - but they don't put two sticks in at this time due to "stability issues." When the stability issues have settled down, they will offer computers with 64gb. I checked other sites and saw that no one is offering the 64 in prebuilds, or builds that you configure yourself. I suppose they don't want to be responsible for known issues (re instability). They said check back every once in a while and eventually 64 will be available.
That's...odd... DDR5 can run with one stick without much of a performance loss. I do also know that DDR5 is still a little unstable. I'm running a system with 4X16 DDR5-6000Mhz, and before the last BIOS update, I was having reboots about 5X/day...now it's down to 2X/day. That's the problem with adopting early technology, unfortunately. But, 1X seems like a very odd choice to go with. If you want a stable system, and don't have patience or technological skills, I'd suggest stepping down to DDR4. With Daz, you won't notice much of a difference really.
I ran a render on my i9-9900K with 64GB DDR-4 RAM before upgrading to an i9-12900KS with 64GB DDR-5 RAM. On the 9th gen, the render took 1 hr, 3 seconds. On the 12th gen...render took 1 hr, 4 seconds (so...within a margain of error).
Granted, if you're hoping to step up to the 40-series cards (once, again, drivers have been worked out, and Daz can utilize the new CUDA cores effectively), you'd probably want to go with the latest AMD or Intel offerings, including DDR5...but, like I said, be warned about instable systems.
...another reason I'm sticking with 2133 DDR4 ECC memory. It's been around long enough to get the bugs worked out.
My current system still uses (believe it or not) 1333 DDR3 and has been incredibly stable for many years.