Who's that girl. "AJC Aero Fitness Outfit for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Females
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Hi all
Anyone know who she is
AJC Aero Fitness Outfit for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Females
Thanks ahead of time
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I'd like to know too! Similar model has been used for other promos by the same PA. She looks great.
Interested in the answer too!
also interested in the answer myself
I was wondering as well, ....I found these 2 items as my best guess.. .. the eyebrows look very very presice. As well as some addon eyelashes
Could be these brows?:
https://www.daz3d.com/super-natural-brows-merchant-resource-for-genesis-8-and-3-female
This model's brows look very similar:
https://www.daz3d.com/nola-hd-for-genesis-81-female
and this model? -the features appear similar like the mouth:
https://www.daz3d.com/dalila-hair-for-genesis-8-and-81-female
Interested to know too... How come in DAZ market place authors cannot be contacted ??? There is no support by authorS here ?
The artists pay customer service not to be distracted by things other than artistic creation; you can submit a ticket through the help to relay your question to the author. Also, authors who are seeking direct communication appear in the Commercial Thread. The reason that there is a little firewall is that sometimes customers want things that are impossible (an author creats their signature custom character for advertising so it isn't for sale), the customer wants support that is caused by user error and not product related, or they don't speak english so that they would be unable to communicate with the customer.
Thank you very much for clarification. In that case what would be nice from the author is simply to write into the product description : Model not for sale, promotion purpose only. So we know (the customers) this is not something we can search for hours in the market place. Maybe there is also a missing feature from DAZ market place ? Where authors can tick a checkbox to tell about the same thing above. In my opinion, that would make it easier for sellers and buuyers. Is there a section here where i can ask DAZ 3D people for a site feature request. I completly understand the seller private choice. I'm just frustrated by the 'not enough information' from the product description.
Ah, this is a complicated thing that has be discussed since rendering has started. I think I am like many people here. When I render a scene, I have access to all of the assets I have purchased and accumulated which totals in the tens of thousands. If I am selecting something, I don't have a spreadsheet open where I keep track of every asset I used. In the case of the store promotions, the images are created by a service that the artist hires. The artist receives 30 renderings, for example, and they or Daz3d picks 6. Those 30 images represent 75 images that the service made and reduced to 30. The agency didn't keep a spreadsheet of everything used; they just ensured that everything could be legally used. There really isn't this accounting for all of the assets.
If I may give you an analogy, watch a tv commercial and try to spot the credits where they list the location, clothes, music source, actors, camera used, etc.. in that Coca Cola ad. There isn’t a credit. I sometimes look at a site called Ispot.tv, which tries to keep track of such things but often the companies that make the commercial don’t keep track of such things.
Mmmm, i understand. It looks completly different from renderosity sells (i'm a bit more used to rendo as a past seller).
Anyway, but this is a guess (i should look from my purchase history), i believe there are plugins for DAZ studio that keeps tracks of any morphs used (convinient to tell what is used for custom model for example).; And probably same thing exists also for other content used; I will try to confirm that by posting the product link here, i believe i purchased this few weeks or months ago.
EDIT : Of course it may require a little bit of extra time but those 2 plugins probably help to keep tracks of everything used in a scene (including morphs, and props.)
https://www.daz3d.com/dial-fusion-for-genesis-2-to-81 and https://www.daz3d.com/smart-collections.
There is the assumption that a vendor who has a trademark custom character for their advertisements wants to intentionally dilute the uniqueness and utility of said character by giving away proprietary information. It is very common for companies to trademark the colors they use such as Coca Cola red or Tiffany Blue so that the color is reserved for them alone.
Tracking assets is always going to be an above the call of duty demand especially if you use products that no longer available, custom products, products given in advance by other vendors for promotional purposes but not released yet, and if the vendor doesn't want to spend time on asset inventory versus product creation. No plug-in is going to help when the product has no listing.
Understood, that's fine. After all i'm a customer who spend money. If the author wants to sell il, then i will wait or even it is alright if this never happens. Up to me to create my own gorgeous model if i need one. Then this post let know the author that some customers are ready to puchase his/her gorgeous character. Up to him/her to make a bit more money or not. Thanks for all explanations ! Have a nice day !
Good, it is important to understand that the artist may have clothing design as a specialty so that their trademark is part of their brand and not really for sale and possibly, their iconic character was made for them rather than made by them. I keep picturing a family having a yard sale. A customer walks up and asks how much for the dresser. The dad says "$25"! The customer says that he will make it $50 if he throws in the wife and kids. The outraged father says that his family is not for sale. The customer says: "Hey, you are leaving money on the table"!
This custom character might be kitbashed from already published assets. It's not necessarily made 100% by this PA.
Best one could count for its to get the recipe how to kitbash it, but the PA might not be visiting the forums.
Thank you for making me spit up my coffee!
This PA has been around for a little while, and out of 41 total products this model appears in promos for only 2 of them. The other product is AJC Workout Style Outfit and Dumbbells for Genesis 8 Female, which came out way back in Jan 2021. It has been over one and a half years since this model showed up in this PA's promos. So this character is not something identified with this PA, thus it is not a trademark and I think we can rule that out entirely. This is more likely a promo artist who did these for the PA, as these promos look very different from the other products the PA has done. It would be kind of hard to claim it is the promo artist trademark style, because we don't even know who they are. It is kind of hard to put a trademark style on somebody who is completely unknown or uncredited.
Both of the products, as well as many of this PA's other items, are all Daz Originals. So that likely points to somebody who works with Daz for promo pics as being the artist behind them, and thus the one who put together this character.
Since this does predate Genesis 8.1, and assuming it is an existing character(s), it is likely something from the G3 or G8 line. I am getting strong Raiya vibes from this character, it could be a couple of her characters mixed together. It has some kind of fibermesh brow, which can hide the texture painted brows and make it harder to identify where the texture came from. It is also possible the texture is edited by the promo artist. Raiya also has a lot of ties to Daz Originals, having created many Daz Original products over the years, including the Genesis 3 base skin.
It can be lucrative to sell a popular promo character model. The Pretty Base model has been released for several generations, including V4, G3 and G8. Considering they released her for multiple generations, I would have to believe she must have been quite successful for them. Plus in spite of all these models, you do not see other PAs using this model in their promo pics. All these years later the PAs who made Pretty Base are the only ones using that model in their promo pics. So even though she is widely available for anyone, she still is highly identifiable as being the Pretty3D and Mytilis girl.
lots of speculation about if they are tied to DAZ just because its a DAZ Original, but it just means that DAZ bought the item and nothing else. The PA has still to do the whole product on themselfs, including the renders.
She looks like Annelies from Valery3d with a smaller upper lip to me. Could as well be one of her characters from rendo.
The fibermesh brows remind me of the style CB is using.
Good promo shots can take a while to set up and render, and that is time that a PA can use making other products to sell. Time is money, you know. Plus most PAs are not rocking 3090s here. It is quite common for PAs to make a deal with somebody to do promo renders for them. Daz does this, too. Many Daz Original core characters have promo pics made by somebody who is not directly employeed by them, and did not create the actual character model. They can even have multiple people doing the promos.
So it stands to reason that the same can happen with other Daz Original products like this one. I am not saying that is the case, but it is certainly possible Daz purchased the rights to this product and then had another artist they like to work with do the promos. Many, many products are team efforts.
The closest match I could find is MGAB Olivia, when I layer both on onto each other there is only very small discrepancies. It might not be perfect, but if you wanna get close this might be a good start or at least you mange to get a look a like. The skin texture I still try to find. By looking at the landmarks like all the small skinmarks.
At least that would be my approach of tackling things. Or look into the supported shapes if there are any hints.
Ps.: At 85 mm focal length which I googled for the best portrait focal length the match is super close
I explained why it is not that way for DAZ Originals. DAZ just buys the complete package. The PA might have let someone else do the renders sure.
If the Vendor is "DAZ Originals + someone else" DAZ bought the whole package. so nothing is done by DAZ actually
You are right that rendering costs time etc, but if another person does it, that person has to be paid too :D
That is not what you said, though. "The PA has still to do the whole product on themselfs, including the renders." To me that says the PA must do the renders themselves, when that is obviously not true. The PA can get have anyone do promo pics for them. How they get compensated is purely between them. Given how common it is, the economics must work out. Some PAs are not rocking very good hardware. They might be able to design something, but their machine might be terrible for rendering Iray. Some people have Macs for some reason, and can't even use a proper GPU. Or maybe they just don't want to make promos. People can have different things they like to do. Some people love rendering, but maybe some people don't actually enjoy rendering and would rather be working in their modeling app. And then some people might be great at designing products but not so good making pictures for them. In which case having somebody who has a knack for making nice promo pics can help them get more sales.
Would be even better if the artist himself/herself come here and answers. Not that hard tbh. In the other hand seems like artist is new on daz, judging by the store page, i don't see much of a products. Model looks good, i'm interested as well. It also can be a model from another sites too that's why artist is not give the promo credits, at least this is what i'm thinking.
Bear in mind that the PA who made the product is not necessarily the same artist that created the promo image(s). Just because someone can create 3D assets good enough to sell does not mean they are also a master as displaying said assets to their fullest. Therefore, the PA may not even know themselves what model is used. Also, some promo artists like to use the same model in their work - perhaps as a way to "sign" it without putting a signature on it (as I think that is not allowed on promo images). Therefore, they would prefer to keep the model's "recipe" to themselves. Certainly if the model is (or in part) from assets not currently sold on the Daz Store then they cannot be mentioned in the product page itself. Also, if the promo artist is not actively browsing this forum then they may never even know that people are interested in how the model was formed.
Obviously, it would be nice if these things could be available but I can see why sometimes they are not.
Also, the PA might not even speak enough English to participate in the forum.