RTX 4090 Support

Like many others I'd imagine, I'm considering upgrading to a system with a 4090. Before doing so, I'd like to get some info regarding DS support for the RTX 4090. Ideally, it would be helpful to get some official info about support plans for both DS4.x and DS5.

Thanks in advance if anyone has any info or links to announcements.

- Greg

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  • Seconded. As its a major expenditure, I'd like to be able to plan out my purchase/use, if possible.

  • Thirded.  I'd like to know if I will be able to use a 4090.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,814

    Is there even a version of Iray which supports them yet?

  • I bought a 4090, rendering looks okay. However I have an issue with dForce. 

    2022-10-13 22:17:20.498 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\src\dzdynamicsengine.cpp(2489): ERROR: clEnqueueMapBuffer (-36)
    2022-10-13 22:17:20.498 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\src\dzopenclkernelfactory.cpp(32): Open CL notify: Unknown error executing clFlush on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (Device 0).

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,814

    I've read in another thread that there were problems between dForce and the latest nvidia drivers, could it be related?

  • oddboboddbob Posts: 402

    Jeremion said:

    I bought a 4090, rendering looks okay. However I have an issue with dForce. 

    2022-10-13 22:17:20.498 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\src\dzdynamicsengine.cpp(2489): ERROR: clEnqueueMapBuffer (-36)
    2022-10-13 22:17:20.498 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\src\dzopenclkernelfactory.cpp(32): Open CL notify: Unknown error executing clFlush on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (Device 0).

    That's caused by the latest nvidia game ready driver and I had the same issue with my 3090. Using an older driver fixed it. Unfortunately you don't have that option as it's the 4090 launch driver.

  • JeremionJeremion Posts: 46
    edited October 2022

    oddbob said:

    That's caused by the latest nvidia game ready driver and I had the same issue with my 3090. Using an older driver fixed it. Unfortunately you don't have that option as it's the 4090 launch driver

    Thanks, well... I'm desperate :D :D (I use studio ones, I'll try the game ready driver... who knows ;))

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  • thrstiwthrstiw Posts: 12
    edited October 2022

    Jeremion said:

    I bought a 4090, rendering looks okay. However I have an issue with dForce. 

    2022-10-13 22:17:20.498 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\src\dzdynamicsengine.cpp(2489): ERROR: clEnqueueMapBuffer (-36)
    2022-10-13 22:17:20.498 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\src\dzopenclkernelfactory.cpp(32): Open CL notify: Unknown error executing clFlush on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (Device 0).

     

    Congratulations on your purchase! The problem with D-Force is not because of the video card, but because of the new Nvidia driver.
    Could you take part in Benchmarking of video cards?  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/341041/daz-studio-iray-rendering-hardware-benchmarking Many people are very interested to look at the result of 4090.

     

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • oddboboddbob Posts: 402

    Jeremion said:

    oddbob said:

    That's caused by the latest nvidia game ready driver and I had the same issue with my 3090. Using an older driver fixed it. Unfortunately you don't have that option as it's the 4090 launch driver

    Thanks, well... I'm desperate :D :D (I use studio ones, I'll try the game ready driver... who knows ;))

    For the 3090 game ready 522.25 is broken and studio driver 517.40 works. You might have the same issue but in reverse then. smiley

  • thrstiw said:

    Congratulations on your purchase! The problem with D-Force is not because of the video card, but because of the new Nvidia driver.
    Could you take part in Benchmarking of video cards?  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/341041/daz-studio-iray-rendering-hardware-benchmarking Many people are very interested to look at the result of 4090.

    Just did it

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,917

    Jeremion said:

    thrstiw said:

    Congratulations on your purchase! The problem with D-Force is not because of the video card, but because of the new Nvidia driver.
    Could you take part in Benchmarking of video cards?  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/341041/daz-studio-iray-rendering-hardware-benchmarking Many people are very interested to look at the result of 4090.

    Just did it

    Wait... so that means it works on current Iray?
  • Yes, my only issue is dForce so far. Just installed the card :)

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,917

    Cool, what a nice surprise. DForce has an issue with latest drivers apparently, so might not have anything to do with 4090. I see you used the beta. Does it render only there?

  • bluejaunte said:

    Cool, what a nice surprise. DForce has an issue with latest drivers apparently, so might not have anything to do with 4090. I see you used the beta. Does it render only there?

    No, just I didn't want to change my settings on the released version of daz lol :)

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,917

    That is great. Might wanna try how fast it is if you set power limit to like 70%.

  • bluejaunte said:

    That is great. Might wanna try how fast it is if you set power limit to like 70%.

    Given that it currently uses max 285 out of 450W when rendering in Daz Studio that wouldn't change a thing.

    Also, increasing the power limit by 33% (to 600W) won't do a thing either, because the card rendering speed is limited by current Iray version not taking full advantage of the new architecture.

    Finally, Daz is way behind on Iray updates -- 2022.0.0 final (with support for emissive volumes) was released on August 8.

  • johndoe_36eb90b0 said:

    bluejaunte said:

    That is great. Might wanna try how fast it is if you set power limit to like 70%.

    Given that it currently uses max 285 out of 450W when rendering in Daz Studio that wouldn't change a thing.

    Iray doesn't use all features of the card so it doesn't draw the maximum power.

    Also, increasing the power limit by 33% (to 600W) won't do a thing either, because the card rendering speed is limited by current Iray version not taking full advantage of the new architecture.

    Finally, Daz is way behind on Iray updates -- 2022.0.0 final (with support for emissive volumes) was released on August 8.

  • ZorlunZorlun Posts: 9

    Damn it! Just installed the 4090 and it render like a flash, but dforce is not working, be it with the gaming or studio drivers.

  • I reported this to NVIDIA.

  • The problem is still there with the latest 522.30 driver :(

  • Here, too.

    Using Studio drivers, of course.

    Any walkaround? CPU?..

  • Use an older driver. nVidia ia apparently aware of and investigating the issue so we may hope that a future driver version will fix the problem.

  • Zorlun said:

    Damn it! Just installed the 4090 and it render like a flash, but dforce is not working, be it with the gaming or studio drivers.

     

    I have the same problem

  • troth_67124ac7 said:

    https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/193235/en-us/

    There's the old Studio Driver that works

    Not, unfortunately, for 4090s

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169
    edited October 2022

    For those that purchased...keep an eye on them, especially for those of you who are also gamers. Some of them are melting the power cable inside the computer. :( Just a PSA.

    Post edited by AllenArt on
  • christian_s_db08e35b79 said:

    The problem is still there with the latest 522.30 driver :(

    Did you try the new GeForce Game Ready Driver Version: 526.86?

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,668

    AllenArt said:

    For those that purchased...keep an eye on them, especially for those of you who are also gamers. Some of them are melting the power cable inside the computer. :( Just a PSA.

    Yes, I have heard about this issue, as well, but nobody reported it here, so far.

     

  • My two cents. DO BUY A 4090 WITHOUT BUYING A PCIe 5.0 PSU; YOU MIGHT START A FIRE. This RTX 4090 GPU has a huge problem. It caught fire (msn.com). Do not use an adapter.

  • AgitatedRiot said:

    My two cents. DO BUY A 4090 WITHOUT BUYING A PCIe 5.0 PSU; YOU MIGHT START A FIRE. This RTX 4090 GPU has a huge problem. It caught fire (msn.com). Do not use an adapter.

    There's a few theories going around right now, but nothing difinitive just yet.

    One theory is that the connectors aren't being plugged in securely (user error).

    Another theory is that some sub-par connectors were shipped.  Igorlabs' photos showed that the wires were gauged @150W, while GamersNexus's investigation showed his all were gauged @ 300W.  Though, neither of those connectors failed, and as far as I know, no one has sent either Igorslabs or GamersNexus defective melted adapters for them to thoroughly investigate.

    I have a theory that since the card is rated for 600W, but can run just fine on 450W, it may be possible that only 3 of the 4 connectors are securely connected and transient spikes are causing the draw to get close to the 600W range, which the 3 cables will happily provide but wind up causing overheating.

    That said, CableMod is coming out soon(TM) with a 90 degree connector for horizontal mount setups.  That should reduce the strain on the cable.

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