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  • ArgleSWArgleSW Posts: 147

    Go to: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx

    Look at attached screenshot on how to find the correct driver. You want to download the Studio 517.40 driver.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,288

    ArgleSW said:

    Go to: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx

    Look at attached screenshot on how to find the correct driver. You want to download the Studio 517.40 driver.

    So the Studio 522.30 driver doesn't work with dForce and DAZ Studio Pro Public Beta 5.21.*?

  • ArgleSWArgleSW Posts: 147

    You can give it a try, but I just read on other forums 517.40 works for sure and I can confirm it solved the issue for me. You can try 522.30 but if it fails, 517.40 will be a good next step.

    I would call this entire thing a temporary workaround until a proper fix is available. 

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,288

    ArgleSW said:

    You can give it a try, but I just read on other forums 517.40 works for sure and I can confirm it solved the issue for me. You can try 522.30 but if it fails, 517.40 will be a good next step.

    I would call this entire thing a temporary workaround until a proper fix is available. 

    thanks

  • Calliope23Calliope23 Posts: 535
    edited October 2022

    I have been using the Nvidia game ready driver ever since I got my computer. It's a gaming computer, so (knowing little about such things) I figured game ready driver, even though I don't use the computer to game, only for DAZ Studio. To change from the game ready driver to the studio driver 517.40 do I need to do anything complicated or can I just download it? Daz 4.21 is working fine for me right now, but if my art will look better with a Studio driver I'd like to install that.

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  • hejjj12hejjj12 Posts: 51
    I got a new graficscard recently, just as the new drivers were released. So first I tried the new and driver and they didn't work,but it did do the inspiration thing it does with dforce. When I installed the older dforce "worked" but the hair kinda breaks if the character is laying down. So it can mostly do mild bends, and all dforce hairs still feels very stiff when rendering. So was wondering can I re simulate the dforce insiation thing without reinstalling Daz studio? Or is there another solution? Or are the hairs souppse to be a bit stiff? Is anyone else having this issue?
  • glaseyeglaseye Posts: 1,312

    For me, game ready driver 517.48 works (DS4.21.0.5beta, win10pro)

  • Calliope23Calliope23 Posts: 535

    I guess what I also wanted to know is what are the advantages of an Nvidia Studio Driver over a Game Ready Driver in regards to using Daz Studio?  Sorry if this is the wrong place for this question. Don't want to hijack the thread. Thank you in advance.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,291

    Calliope23 said:

    I guess what I also wanted to know is what are the advantages of an Nvidia Studio Driver over a Game Ready Driver in regards to using Daz Studio?  Sorry if this is the wrong place for this question. Don't want to hijack the thread. Thank you in advance.

    Studio  drives should be more stable and more thoroughly tested, the ones thata re marked as Game ready are often pushed out to meet a specific need but are not always as solid.

  • Calliope23Calliope23 Posts: 535
    edited October 2022

    Thanks for your response, Richard Haseltine smiley

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  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    edited October 2022

    I just installed the latest Beta this morning (NZ time) and at the same time I installed the latest NVidia drivers. As was mentioned in several other threads, dForce didn't work even though I had installed the Studio drivers (as I do every time anyhow). It turns out that there is a more general OpenCL problem that NVidia is aware of but, in the meantime I dropped back the driver version to 517.40 and dForce is working again.

    For anyone who doesn't know how to find versions of the drivers - I just Google search NVidia Drivers, go to the downloads page and find the one for my GPU and the version I need. I don't - as many seem to do - use the GeForce Experience app to install drivers. In fact I never install that because I don't see any benefit and I don't like being bombarded with NVidia promotions.

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  • Calliope23Calliope23 Posts: 535

    Thank you for the info, @Marble. All good to know. smiley

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Googling the link, doesn't necessarily land one on the correct place

    The link to Nvidia drivers, is always here https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/568121/daz-studio-pro-4-21-0-x-nvidia-iray#latest

    https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,288

    It's much slower but in the Simulation Tab you can switch to the Advanced Tab and they'll be a drop down menu if you have one more more nVidia GPU cards, one of those items in the drop drop menu is the CPU. Select the CPU in the drop down menu & you can use it until nVidia fixes their drivers. In my case, the CPU in the drop down menu is AMD but I suppose if you have an intel CPU it will be listed in the drop down menu instead.

  • Calliope23Calliope23 Posts: 535

    PerttiA said:

    Googling the link, doesn't necessarily land one on the correct place

    The link to Nvidia drivers, is always here https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/568121/daz-studio-pro-4-21-0-x-nvidia-iray#latest

    https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx

    Thanks, @PerttiA . smiley  I need to more thoroughly educate myself on DAZ Studio and iRay in general by tutorials, the forums, YouTube videos. I think I am one of those who presses the "make art button"  without really knowing what I am doing! Lol. These forums are so helpful. Thanks again.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,495
    edited October 2022

    nonesuch00 said:

    It's much slower but in the Simulation Tab you can switch to the Advanced Tab and they'll be a drop down menu if you have one more more nVidia GPU cards, one of those items in the drop drop menu is the CPU. Select the CPU in the drop down menu & you can use it until nVidia fixes their drivers. In my case, the CPU in the drop down menu is AMD but I suppose if you have an intel CPU it will be listed in the drop down menu instead.

    if you have onboard graphics 

    it's what I did but not all rigs do 

    my second monitor actually uses the Vega graphics so it may not show up on a PC where you are not

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  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    PerttiA said:

    Googling the link, doesn't necessarily land one on the correct place

    The link to Nvidia drivers, is always here https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/568121/daz-studio-pro-4-21-0-x-nvidia-iray#latest

    https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx

     

    Well, that's exactly the page I land on after I google but thanks for the precise link - I should have saved it before but I have never bothered.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,288
    edited October 2022

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    It's much slower but in the Simulation Tab you can switch to the Advanced Tab and they'll be a drop down menu if you have one more more nVidia GPU cards, one of those items in the drop drop menu is the CPU. Select the CPU in the drop down menu & you can use it until nVidia fixes their drivers. In my case, the CPU in the drop down menu is AMD but I suppose if you have an intel CPU it will be listed in the drop down menu instead.

    if you have onboard graphics 

    it's what I did but not all rigs do 

    my second monitor actually uses the Vega graphics so it may not show up on a PC where you are not

    Oh! Thanks.

    I have a AMD Ryzen 7 5700G with Vega 8 so it's the on-board graphics it's using and not the CPU. Intel always has onboard graphics so if you have intel CPU, you are good to go.

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  • oddboboddbob Posts: 402

    marble said: I don't - as many seem to do - use the GeForce Experience app to install drivers. In fact I never install that because I don't see any benefit and I don't like being bombarded with NVidia promotions.

    One promotion that is running at the moment is people being randomly offerered the chance to purchase a 4090FE. It's region specific and numbers seem limited but it's an option if you're in the market for one. There's also a performance overlay that offers some useful realtime monitoring of GPU and CPU use. It's basic but quick and easy. ALT Z to get to the page to turn it on and ALT R to toggle.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    nonesuch00 said:

    Intel always has onboard graphics so if you have intel CPU, you are good to go.

    Only the 'consumer' versions of Intel CPU's have integrated graphics, and not even all of those. 

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    oddbob said:

    marble said: I don't - as many seem to do - use the GeForce Experience app to install drivers. In fact I never install that because I don't see any benefit and I don't like being bombarded with NVidia promotions.

    One promotion that is running at the moment is people being randomly offerered the chance to purchase a 4090FE. It's region specific and numbers seem limited but it's an option if you're in the market for one. There's also a performance overlay that offers some useful realtime monitoring of GPU and CPU use. It's basic but quick and easy. ALT Z to get to the page to turn it on and ALT R to toggle.

     Region Specific usually excludes my region (New Zealand). Anyhow, I think my 3090 will have to last me until I can save for a 7090.

  • oddboboddbob Posts: 402

    marble said:

    oddbob said:

    marble said: I don't - as many seem to do - use the GeForce Experience app to install drivers. In fact I never install that because I don't see any benefit and I don't like being bombarded with NVidia promotions.

    One promotion that is running at the moment is people being randomly offerered the chance to purchase a 4090FE. It's region specific and numbers seem limited but it's an option if you're in the market for one. There's also a performance overlay that offers some useful realtime monitoring of GPU and CPU use. It's basic but quick and easy. ALT Z to get to the page to turn it on and ALT R to toggle.

     Region Specific usually excludes my region (New Zealand). Anyhow, I think my 3090 will have to last me until I can save for a 7090.

    I think it was US, UK and parts of the EU so you're probably correct. But on the bright side you get scenery and Hobbits!

    I'm thinking my 3090 is going to do another two years, possibly four and then it's going to move into my other PC.

  • f7eerf7eer Posts: 123

    As of today (Oct 27), I downloaded the latest Studio Driver (522.30) (not having read this thread before) and it still fails, so I reverted to 517.40. Thanks the community for identifying the last working Studio Driver.

  • vyktohria_396878f81avyktohria_396878f81a Posts: 113

    Yep. Just reverted back to 517.40 and it works. For anyone who needs the link, here it is: 

    https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/193235/en-us/

  • vagansvagans Posts: 422
    Latest Nvidia drivers list this as an open issue. "- [Daz Studio] Application crashes after updating to latest driver when trying to run simulation [3838022]"
  • mattinkhabirmattinkhabir Posts: 21

    I've been having the same problem too guys. I was late to update drivers, and yesterday I went ahead and updated both drivers. Broke dforce completely. I went ahead and downloaded the september 20th version studio driver, and now dforce is working again. Hope nvida fixes this issue soon. 

  • Calliope23Calliope23 Posts: 535

    vyktohria_396878f81a said:

    Yep. Just reverted back to 517.40 and it works. For anyone who needs the link, here it is: 

    https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/193235/en-us/

    Thanks! Downloaded it just fine, and that made it very easy to find. smiley

  • revolloerevolloe Posts: 13

    I have an AMD graphic card. Anyone can give a hint on how to fix the CL Kernels for made possible simulating.

    Thx

     

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