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Advice for new PC and old video card

tagantagan Posts: 33
in Daz Studio Discussion

hello. 
i am about to buy a new pc. these are the main components:

- EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G6, 80 Plus Gold 750W
- Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-RAM 3600 MHz 2x 16GB
- AMD Ryzen 7 5800X processor (8C/16T, 36MB cache, 4.7 GHz Max Boost)
- Gigabyte B550 AORUS Elite V2 (AMD Ryzen 5000/B550/ATX/PCIe4.0/DDR4/USB3.2 Gen 1/Realtek ALC1200/M.2/2.5 GbE LAN/HDMI/DP/Gaming)

So configured, it costs about 850€ and my budget at the moment is 1000€.

I have an old GTX 750 TI 2GB and an old GTX 780 3GB
Could these cards be enough to use daz 4.20 and wait to buy a 12GB RTX3060 in the future?

Or should I buy a used GTX 1660 6GB right away ? 

At the moment I can render with only Victoria 4 and its clothes, modified for IRay. Genesis3 and Genesis8 doesn't work I think due to lack of VRAM

Last question, could I use only the 5800X CPU to do rendering, not professional with Denoise at 150 Iterations ?

Thank you.
I used Deepl to translate from Italian to English. I hope it did its job well!

Comments

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,691

    Those cards are Kepler cards, they're not supported anymore by the versions of Iray in DS (the latest version supporting them was a 4.14 IIRC) so they won't be used for rendering, only for display.

    You can render with the CPU, though it's much slower than with a GPU.

  • tagantagan Posts: 33

    Leana said:

    Those cards are Kepler cards, they're not supported anymore by the versions of Iray in DS (the latest version supporting them was a 4.14 IIRC) so they won't be used for rendering, only for display.

    You can render with the CPU, though it's much slower than with a GPU.

    Can the RTX 2060 card be okay or should I get an RTX30xx ? 

    Which entry level RTX do you recommend ?

    Thank you

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    tagan said:

    Leana said:

    Those cards are Kepler cards, they're not supported anymore by the versions of Iray in DS (the latest version supporting them was a 4.14 IIRC) so they won't be used for rendering, only for display.

    You can render with the CPU, though it's much slower than with a GPU.

    Can the RTX 2060 card be okay or should I get an RTX30xx ? 

    Which entry level RTX do you recommend ?

    Thank you

    At least here, the price difference between RTX 2060 and RTX 3060 is so small that if one makes the investment, why not get a card that's as fast as RTX 2080 ti and has enough VRAM to handle almost everything. 

  • stripe6499_9253833ae8stripe6499_9253833ae8 Posts: 134

    I got a new pc earlier this year with an RTX3060 fitted and it dropped my render times to about 30 mins from 4 hours. I would also suggest going from 32gb ram to 64gb if your budget will stand it.

  • tagantagan Posts: 33

    in conclusion, i preferred to get an RTX 3060 12GB and a 5800X 32GB (2X16). with this configuration i went just over my budget.
    64GB was excessive.....maybe in the future.
    Thank you all for the advice

  • stefan.humsstefan.hums Posts: 132

    Leana said:

    Those cards are Kepler cards, they're not supported anymore by the versions of Iray in DS

    The GTX 750 Ti is a Maxwell card (GM107 GPU) and should be still supported by Iray. Anyway, you will probably not render anything with this ancient card because of only 2 GB VRAM.

    The 780 is no longer supported (Kepler GPU).

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,798

    stefan.hums said:

    Leana said:

    Those cards are Kepler cards, they're not supported anymore by the versions of Iray in DS

    The GTX 750 Ti is a Maxwell card (GM107 GPU) and should be still supported by Iray. Anyway, you will probably not render anything with this ancient card because of only 2 GB VRAM.

    The 780 is no longer supported (Kepler GPU).

    I haven't tried it with DS (or indeed switched it on for a couple of years) but the 750Ti in my old system had 4GB or RAM.

  • tagantagan Posts: 33

    Richard Haseltine said:

    stefan.hums said:

    Leana said:

    Those cards are Kepler cards, they're not supported anymore by the versions of Iray in DS

    The GTX 750 Ti is a Maxwell card (GM107 GPU) and should be still supported by Iray. Anyway, you will probably not render anything with this ancient card because of only 2 GB VRAM.

    The 780 is no longer supported (Kepler GPU).

    I haven't tried it with DS (or indeed switched it on for a couple of years) but the 750Ti in my old system had 4GB or RAM.

     

     

    Some upgraded 750TI had 4GB, but mine has 2GB.
    However, I could never render a genesis3 or genesis8 unless I reduced the texture size by 1/4.

    anyway, no harm done. by buying secondhand parts on amazon wharehouse and compromising between CPU and other.... I was able to get an RTX 3060 12GB slightly exceeding my budget.

    thanks to all

    ps: a curiosity....
    I translated this text with DeepL. Does this tool translate well? 

  • stripe6499_9253833ae8stripe6499_9253833ae8 Posts: 134

    The translation looks pretty good to me. Just FYI, I ran a Daz benchmark test with the RTX3060. It gave me a render time of 5min40 secs without CPU assistance, and 5min03 sec with CPU assistance. That's with 64gb ddr4, and an intel i7-11700kf 3,6Ghz cpu. So I think you'll like the RTX3060 card.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    stripe6499_9253833ae8 said:

    The translation looks pretty good to me. Just FYI, I ran a Daz benchmark test with the RTX3060. It gave me a render time of 5min40 secs without CPU assistance, and 5min03 sec with CPU assistance. That's with 64gb ddr4, and an intel i7-11700kf 3,6Ghz cpu. So I think you'll like the RTX3060 card.

    Mine does the benchmark in 4 minutes, but I'm using DS 4.15, Nvidia driver ver. 471.41 and W7 Ultimate on i7-5820K, X99, 64GB and 3060 12GB

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,983
    edited October 2022

    Rules for those, who use DAZ Studio as their favorite application:
    Rule Nr. 1) No Mac
    Rule Nr. 2) NVidea cards only
    Rule Nr. 3) Choose hardware as best as you can afford (CPU, GPU, RAM, HD)
    Rule Nr. 4) Did I say No Mac already? 
     

    Post edited by Masterstroke on
  • Michal P.Michal P. Posts: 77

    You need mainly nVidia GPU with at least 12GB on GPU card. Forget GPU with only 6GB.

    You should also have 32GB for CPU.

  • jeronimocollaresjeronimocollares Posts: 131

    Lucky for me, I've never used nVidia's Iray in Daz Studio... I prefer Keyshot and/or Rhino - do what daz takes a day, in 10 seconds or in real time...

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,145

    Keep the 750 TI and use it to drive your monitor(s).

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    I use my Ryzen 7 5800G integrated GPU to drive my monitor & the discrete GeForce RTX 3060 GPU to render and such things.

  • JVRendererJVRenderer Posts: 661

    A more balanced Daz Studio built would be :

    1. Ryzen 5 5600X CPU (you don't really need a 58003DX0)

    2. 2  X 32Gb of DDR4 3200 Mhz RAM (total 64 Gb)  (system RAM should be 4X VRAM)

    3. 750W gold + PSU

    4. 1 Tb M.2 nVME drive and 4Tb HHD (for content)

    5. RTX 3060 - 12 video card

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